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The stars like grains of sand...

Post by Rum » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:55 pm

When I was in the car today I was listening to BBC radio 4 and Home Planet - a sort of nature/science/environment programme based around questions people send into a panel.

One question for their resident astronomer was 'are there more stars than there are grains of sand on the earth'?

The astronomer went through a 'sampling' and scaling up explanation (having been prepared in advance) and did a very generalised but valid calculation that there are something 10000000000000000000 (that's 19 zeros) grains of sand on our beaches (he didn't include deserts) and that there are approximately 10000000000000000000000 That's 22 zeros - or a factor of 10 greater stars - and that is just for the universe so far visible.

It is an astonishing and mind boggling conclusion.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:59 pm

Rumertron wrote:When I was in the car today I was listening to BBC radio 4 and Home Planet - a sort of nature/science/environment programme based around questions people send into a panel.

One question for their resident astronomer was 'are there more stars than there are grains of sand on the earth'?

The astronomer went through a 'sampling' and scaling up explanation (having been prepared in advance) and did a very generalised but valid calculation that there are something 10000000000000000000 (that's 19 zeros) grains of sand on our beaches (he didn't include deserts) and that there are approximately 10000000000000000000000 That's 22 zeros - or a factor of 10 greater stars - and that is just for the universe so far visible.

It is an astonishing and mind boggling conclusion.
And when you consider that most of those are far larger than our sun - that's a lot of 'stuff'! And we are claimed to be the pinnacle of creation? :eddy:
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Post by Animavore » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:01 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And we are claimed to be the pinnacle of creation? :eddy:
Well. I can only speak for myself :coffee:
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Post by Drewish » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:03 pm

Animavore wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And we are claimed to be the pinnacle of creation? :eddy:
Well. I can only speak for myself :coffee:
You beat me to it. Bastard. :Erasb:
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Post by Animavore » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:04 pm

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Animavore wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:And we are claimed to be the pinnacle of creation? :eddy:
Well. I can only speak for myself :coffee:
You beat me to it. Bastard. :Erasb:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:05 pm

It's nonsense anyway. There are far more grains of sand in the footwells of my car after a week in Cornwall than there are stars in the sky. Fact.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:13 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:It's nonsense anyway. There are far more grains of sand in the footwells of my carriage after a week in Cornwall than there are stars in the sky. Fact.
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Post by klr » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:55 pm

Rumertron wrote:When I was in the car today I was listening to BBC radio 4 and Home Planet - a sort of nature/science/environment programme based around questions people send into a panel.

One question for their resident astronomer was 'are there more stars than there are grains of sand on the earth'?

The astronomer went through a 'sampling' and scaling up explanation (having been prepared in advance) and did a very generalised but valid calculation that there are something 10000000000000000000 (that's 19 zeros) grains of sand on our beaches (he didn't include deserts) and that there are approximately 10000000000000000000000 That's 22 zeros - or a factor of 10 greater stars - and that is just for the universe so far visible.

It is an astonishing and mind boggling conclusion.
Mind boggling: Certainly, yes, when you think of the implications. Astonishing? I would have guessed there were many times more stars than grains of sand on Earth, but my thinking could have been all wrong. :levi:
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:10 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:It's nonsense anyway. There are far more grains of sand in the footwells of my carriage after a week in Cornwall than there are stars in the sky. Fact.
Stay in character, damnit.
What am I, a performing 19th century monkeybitch?

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:12 pm

Clinton Huxley wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:It's nonsense anyway. There are far more grains of sand in the footwells of my carriage after a week in Cornwall than there are stars in the sky. Fact.
Stay in character, damnit.
What am I, a performing 19th century monkeybitch?

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Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:13 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Clinton Huxley wrote:It's nonsense anyway. There are far more grains of sand in the footwells of my carriage after a week in Cornwall than there are stars in the sky. Fact.
Stay in character, damnit.
What am I, a performing 19th century monkeybitch?

Don't answer that.
Ouch.







That was me, biting my tongue.
I predict less than 19 seconds will elapse before someone else posts that they'd like to bite your tongue....
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Re: The stars like grains of sand...

Post by Rum » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:42 pm

Hubble recently looked at one 'square inch' of the sky for 11 hours. It in effect looked back a looooong way in time as well as distance and it gleaned light which normally does not reach us. There were ten million stars in that one square inch.

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Post by owtth » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:59 pm

Rumertron wrote:Hubble recently looked at one 'square inch' of the sky for 11 hours. It in effect looked back a looooong way in time as well as distance and it gleaned light which normally does not reach us. There were ten million stars in that one square inch.

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