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Re: Corn

Post by Tero » Sat Aug 04, 2018 11:56 am

yes corn, Zea mays, the exotic plant that has been selected to survive much further than it should
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Re: Corn

Post by Tero » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:28 pm

Bad corn, badly tested GMO product
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Re: Corn

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:54 am

I reviewed another anti Monsanto book: Seeds of deception
https://www.amazon.com/Seeds-Deception- ... X8NTCCZCW6

There are several books on GMO crops and Monsanto. This one gives references to actual published papers, so at least those papers are peer reviewed. The company makes seed products, so its products will likely end up in packaged foods. mainly corn and soybean. There are no GMO wheat products on the market. Even pop corn is not GMO.

If you wish to look up the pesticide in most GMO product, Bacillus thuringiensis, see that entry in Wikipedia. It is mostly digested to small bits of protein and there are no studies showing a major problem in humans.

Another Wikipedia article "Genetically modified food controversies" runs nicely through the history of controversies, so you do not have to buy another book, a pro-GMO book.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetical ... troversies

The main objection to GMO foods is not related to the consumer, but rather to the monopoly that is currently guiding our farmers. Diversity is also generally thought to be the more rugged solution to food, whereas the monoculture products we get now need yearly tinkering at the DNA level.

So there you go. The issue will not go away, follow it at your news source.
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Re: Corn

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 07, 2019 12:06 pm

When farmers sign up to use Monsanto seeds, they also sign up to use roundup etc. as well, they have to use a certain amount. The yields they get are actually not hugely better:
Yield (wiki link above)
US maize yields were flat until the 1930s, when the adoption of conventional hybrid seeds caused them to increase by ~.8 bushels/acre (1937–1955). Thereafter a combination of improved genetics, fertilizer and pesticide availability and mechanization raised the rate of increase to 1.9 bushels per acre per year. In the years since the advent of GM maize, the rate increased slightly to 2.0.[407] Average US maize yields were 174.2 bushels per acre in 2014.[408]

Commercial GM crops have traits that reduce yield loss from insect pressure or weed interference.[409][410]
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Re: Corn

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 1:07 pm

Never eat the stuff.
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Re: Corn

Post by Tero » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:56 pm

You can feed the stuff to pigs and eat the pigs! Processed GMO corn!
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Re: Corn

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 2:57 pm

Not allowed to sell the stuff here.
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Re: Corn

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Aug 07, 2019 3:33 pm

When I stayed with my dad in Indiana we snuck into the neighbor's corn fields to take a few. It was the sweetest corn I've ever tasted.

Grilled corn, mayo and Tajin ain't bad either. :biggrin:

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Re: Corn

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:45 pm

We grow plenty of mais here but it is mostly cattle feed and is not for human consumption.
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Re: Corn

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:51 pm

It's just corn.

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Re: Corn

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:05 pm

This fucking thread man. You guys bitch and moan about the US for everything! :lol: What's wrong with protecting farmers dickheads, other than it isn't protecting you and yours? We gotta have bailouts for everyone but farmers?

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Re: Corn

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:21 pm

Nationalise the land and charge farmers a tithe. You know it makes sense. :tea:
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Re: Corn

Post by Sean Hayden » Wed Aug 07, 2019 6:14 pm

You must be a professor. :smoke:

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Re: Corn

Post by JimC » Wed Aug 07, 2019 8:54 pm

"It's the farmer feeds us all..."
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Re: Corn

Post by laklak » Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:13 pm

Mmmm grilled corn. I slather it in Mexican cheese dip, melted butter, crema, chopped garlic, salt, pepper, and chili powder, and grill it on high heat (basting with the cheese mixture) till it starts to blacken, then serve with more crema and lime slices. I prefer "cow corn" to sweet corn, though.

Corn on the cob, creamed corn, corn bread, polenta, grits, pap, samp, hominy, I loves it all.
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