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Row over US mobile phone 'cockroach backpack' app

Post by cronus » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:49 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24455141

Row over US mobile phone 'cockroach backpack' app

A US company that has developed an "electronic backpack" that fits onto a cockroach allowing its movements to be controlled by a mobile phone app has defended itself against cruelty claims.

The Backyard Brains company says that the device is intended to get children to be interested in neuroscience.

A spokeswoman told the BBC that the device - being formally launched on Saturday - was not a gimmick.

But critics say that the company's stance is "disingenuous".

For the "electronic backpack" to work the cockroaches have to be placed in icy water to subdue them before sandpaper is used to remove the waxy coating on the shell of the insect's head.

An electrode connector and electrodes are then glued on to the insect's body and a needle is used to poke a hole in their thorax in order to insert a wire.

Their antennae are then cut and electrodes are inserted. A circuit is attached to their backs, and signals are received through a mobile phone app allowing users to control the cockroaches' movements to the left and to the right.

Animal behaviour scientist Jonathan Balcombe has been quoted on US scientific websites as saying that the insects are harmed in the process.

"If it was discovered that a teacher was having students use magnifying glasses to burn ants and then look at their tissue, how would people react?" he is quoted as saying.

Likewise Queen's University philosophy Professor Michael Allen warned that the device will "encourage amateurs to operate invasively on living organisms" and "encourage thinking of complex living organisms as mere machines or tools".

The Michigan-based company has even received emails saying the the backpack - known as Roboroach - "teaches kids to be psychopaths".

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Post by JimC » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:03 am

Even though consciousness and pain perception in insects are both miles away from mammals, this is not a good look for science. It doesn't need an emotional PETA-style response to conclude that this is a seriously unwise move. It would certainly appeal to the nerdish sub-species of future serial killers...
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Post by Horwood Beer-Master » Sat Nov 09, 2013 11:16 am

Meh. Call me when they invent one for use on humans. It might finally be worth getting a phone then... :coffee:
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Post by mistermack » Sat Nov 09, 2013 2:23 pm

I find this pretty disgusting. I'm sure it wouldn't be legal here.

I don't normally care about animals being used, so long as there is a need for it. I don't much care about animal rights, except that suffering should be minimised, and justified. If this had scientific research benefits, I wouldn't object. But doing it for fun is bestial behaviour.

And I agree, it may well stimulate psychopathic tendencies. Many serial killers start on animals as kids.
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Post by laklak » Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:46 pm

Better to just spray them with neurotoxins or dump them down the disposal.
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Post by Jason » Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:19 pm

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Post by Animavore » Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:05 pm

You can't teach someone to be a psychopath for flip sake.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:44 pm

:{D
Buy enough of those backpacks and I bet you could play Grand Theft Auto with them...Do they catch fire and explode when you crash them? 8-)
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Post by JimC » Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:58 pm

Animavore wrote:You can't teach someone to be a psychopath for flip sake.
However, for someone who has tendencies in that direction, the availability of such things (and the signal that they are socially acceptable) could push them further along the path...
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Post by Seth » Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:57 pm

Remember the cockroach spy in "The Fifth Element?" Truth is stranger than fiction.
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Post by pcCoder » Sun Nov 10, 2013 3:13 am

Seth wrote:Remember the cockroach spy in "The Fifth Element?" Truth is stranger than fiction.
Hasn't the military already been working on the technology to use bugs as spies? Maybe it was rodents, but it seems like I've read something about this somewhere.

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Post by JimC » Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:09 am

pcCoder wrote:
Seth wrote:Remember the cockroach spy in "The Fifth Element?" Truth is stranger than fiction.
Hasn't the military already been working on the technology to use bugs as spies? Maybe it was rodents, but it seems like I've read something about this somewhere.
From the description in the OP, the cockroaches used by this device will be capable of only very simple movements, and in any case, will die fairly soon from trauma. Subtle control it ain't...
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