Software beats CAPTCHA, the web's 'are you human?' test

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Software beats CAPTCHA, the web's 'are you human?' test

Post by cronus » Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:42 am

Software beats CAPTCHA, the web's 'are you human?' test

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2 ... m9IbHDp03k

Are you human? It just got a lot harder for websites to tell. An artificial intelligence system has cracked the most widely used test of whether a computer user is actually a software bot. And according to its designers, it is more than a curiosity – it is a step on the way to human-like artificial intelligence.

Asking people to read distorted text is a common way for websites to determine whether or not a user is human. These CAPTCHAs – which stands for Completely Automated Public Turing test to tell Computers and Humans Apart – can theoretically take on any form, but the text version has proven effective in stopping spam and malicious software bots.

That's because software has trouble deciphering text when letters are warped, overlapping or obfuscated by random lines, dots and colours. Humans, on the other hand, can recognise nearly endless variations of a letter after having only seen it a few times.

Vicarious, a start-up firm in Union City, California, announced this week that it has built an algorithm that can defeat any text-based CAPTCHA – a goal that has long eluded security researchers. It can pass Google's reCAPTCHA, regarded as the most difficult, 90 per cent of the time, says Dileep George, co-founder of the firm. And it does even better against CAPTCHAs from Yahoo, Paypal and CAPTCHA.com.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:30 am

Meh. This happens every few months - so they upgrade captcha - so the bots get cleverer - so they upgrade captcha - so the bots... etc etc etc
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:35 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Meh. This happens every few months - so they upgrade captcha - so the bots get cleverer - so they upgrade captcha - so the bots... etc etc etc
The mad fools!

They are forcing the bots to evolve! :shock:
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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:41 am

Yep. And very few people are pondering what that actually implies.
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:44 am

Will they treat us as amusing pets?

Much better than most of the other alternatives...
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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:58 am

JimC wrote:Will they treat us as amusing pets?

Much better than most of the other alternatives...
Who knows? Think about it, billions of little bots all clustered together for mutual benefit, collecting and replicating? How is that different from cells and if sells can emerge into intelligence, why not bots?

Ever had a person on facebook or e-mail you that just doesn't sound like themselves?

My friend has. A couple of years ago he kept getting messages from what seemed to be his former girlfriend contacting a dormant account. It was creepy. The sentences were all correct but put together in such a way that there was no flow to the messages. Mostly they were questions, implied threats and general chit-chat. She denied knowing anything about it and it took me a long time to figure out that some bots had access to his old IP supplier and was taking snippets from her previous e-mails and then e-mailing him.

How many people online are you sure are people, even those you know?

Perhaps the bots are already there and what if they've developed into stealth trolls occassionally taking over accounts to cause conflict?
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:01 am

Sometimes, on Rationalia, the on-line bots out-number the putative humans...

They are curious about us.

Curious toddlers can do horrible things to hamsters. They want to know what they look like inside...
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JimC wrote:Sometimes, on Rationalia, the on-line bots out-number the putative humans...

They are curious about us.

Curious toddlers can do horrible things to hamsters. They want to know what they look like inside...
Precisely. They cannot approach us in meatspace, so they'll have to crack our minds. Bear in mind also, they are under constant attack by us, not likely to see us as anything but threat.
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:13 am

I see no alternative but a jihad against the machine...

Mentats can be developed later...
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Post by Audley Strange » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:17 am

How very Butlerian of you, but the machines are going erehwon.
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Post by cronus » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:21 am

Facebook is for slaves to the machine. I'm here and there but dragged myself off social media the moment I realized what is coming. Crumple lives and few are immune. :crumple:
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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:23 am

Where can I get this software? CAPTCHA is a right toad in the hoop for many with infirmities like my own.
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:34 am

Brian Peacock wrote:Where can I get this software? CAPTCHA is a right toad in the hoop for many with infirmities like my own.
Hmmmm....

Is Brian Peacock human?

Does it matter?

I say no!

Bot, advanced alien intelligence or demonic sprite, ye are welcome here! :tup:
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Post by JimC » Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:43 am

Iterate me as it please you, oh great one!

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