Unprecedented shift in temperature
- cronus
- Black Market Analyst
- Posts: 18122
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
- About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
- Location: United Kingdom
- Contact:
Unprecedented shift in temperature
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 69608.html
Unprecedented shift in temperature will begin to hit tropics in less than a decade
Tropical regions will experience the greatest shifts in climate this century with some equatorial areas experiencing unprecedented changes as early as the next few decades, a study has found.
Scientists discovered that the tropics, which are home to the highest densities of wildlife as well as some of the most vulnerable human populations on the planet, will be hit hardest and earliest by climate extremes.
A “meta-analysis” of future climate predictions culled from 39 global computer models used in climate research found that tropical regions are expected to cross the threshold into unprecedented climate change significantly earlier than other areas of the world. If industrial emissions of greenhouse gases remain unchanged in a “business-as-usual” scenario then some tropical regions, such as Jamaica and Indonesia, could see a shift into new climate territory as early as the next decade, the scientists warned.
“The results shocked us. Regardless of the scenario, changes will be coming sooner. Within my generation, whatever climate we were used to will be a thing of the past,” said Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii, the lead author of the study published in the journal Nature. “On average, the tropics will experience unprecedented climate [change] 16 years earlier than the rest of the world, starting as early as 2020,” Dr Mora said.
(continued, reduce population now or the earth becomes unihabitable?)
Unprecedented shift in temperature will begin to hit tropics in less than a decade
Tropical regions will experience the greatest shifts in climate this century with some equatorial areas experiencing unprecedented changes as early as the next few decades, a study has found.
Scientists discovered that the tropics, which are home to the highest densities of wildlife as well as some of the most vulnerable human populations on the planet, will be hit hardest and earliest by climate extremes.
A “meta-analysis” of future climate predictions culled from 39 global computer models used in climate research found that tropical regions are expected to cross the threshold into unprecedented climate change significantly earlier than other areas of the world. If industrial emissions of greenhouse gases remain unchanged in a “business-as-usual” scenario then some tropical regions, such as Jamaica and Indonesia, could see a shift into new climate territory as early as the next decade, the scientists warned.
“The results shocked us. Regardless of the scenario, changes will be coming sooner. Within my generation, whatever climate we were used to will be a thing of the past,” said Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii, the lead author of the study published in the journal Nature. “On average, the tropics will experience unprecedented climate [change] 16 years earlier than the rest of the world, starting as early as 2020,” Dr Mora said.
(continued, reduce population now or the earth becomes unihabitable?)
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
- Thinking Aloud
- Page Bottomer
- Posts: 20111
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:56 am
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Everybody knows that the Arctic ice cap is recovering, so all these studies are just guesswork! It's all a scam to give money to researchers, because they're always so well paid.
Anyway, here's a graph to prove it.

(This is just an excuse to post that graph really - I thought it was fun.)
Anyway, here's a graph to prove it.

(This is just an excuse to post that graph really - I thought it was fun.)
http://thinking-aloud.co.uk/ Musical Me
- mistermack
- Posts: 15093
- Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
- About me: Never rong.
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
What's interesting is the ANTarctic sea-ice extent, which is the highest ever on record. That's right.
Last years was a record, and this years was greater still.
Looking at global temperatures, the ice SHOULD be decreasing. We are right at the top of the interglacial temperature cycle.
The current ocean temperatures are the result of MUCH colder temperatures, over many thousands of years. The oceans SHOULD be getting warmer. And If the ice wasn't decreasing, it would be amazing.
It's happened before, many times.
Last years was a record, and this years was greater still.
Looking at global temperatures, the ice SHOULD be decreasing. We are right at the top of the interglacial temperature cycle.
The current ocean temperatures are the result of MUCH colder temperatures, over many thousands of years. The oceans SHOULD be getting warmer. And If the ice wasn't decreasing, it would be amazing.
It's happened before, many times.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.
- Tyrannical
- Posts: 6468
- Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
I'm shocked that article is current and not ten plus years old.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
- rainbow
- Posts: 13767
- Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:10 am
- About me: Egal wie dicht du bist, Goethe war Dichter
Where ever you are, Goethe was a Poet. - Location: Africa
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
That is because ice is lighter than water, and is rising to the top of the worldmistermack wrote:What's interesting is the ANTarctic sea-ice extent, which is the highest ever on record. That's right.
Last years was a record, and this years was greater still.
Looking at global temperatures, the ice SHOULD be decreasing. We are right at the top of the interglacial temperature cycle.
The current ocean temperatures are the result of MUCH colder temperatures, over many thousands of years. The oceans SHOULD be getting warmer. And If the ice wasn't decreasing, it would be amazing.
It's happened before, many times.

I call bullshit - Alfred E Einstein
BArF−4
BArF−4
- cronus
- Black Market Analyst
- Posts: 18122
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
- About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
- Location: United Kingdom
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Same thing happened on Mars...ice on one pole and atmosphere on the other. 

What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
-
- Posts: 32040
- Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:03 pm
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature

I predict that the Earth will cool and New Yorkers will be able to walk across New York Harbor and the East River instead of taking trains and subways.
Then later, it will warm and the ice will mostly go away, opening travel across the north Atlantic and usher in a new age of exploration and travel for northern Europeans.
- mistermack
- Posts: 15093
- Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:57 am
- About me: Never rong.
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Publications like ''Nature'' are devaluing their credibility by publishing shit like this. Peer review is now allowing pure speculation to get published. What's next? Will they be publishing science fiction, on the grounds that it ''could'' happen?The Independent wrote::The results shocked us. Regardless of the scenario, changes will be coming sooner. Within my generation, whatever climate we were used to will be a thing of the past,” said Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii, the lead author of the study published in the journal Nature. “On average, the tropics will experience unprecedented climate [change] 16 years earlier than the rest of the world, starting as early as 2020,” Dr Mora said.
While there is a market for shit, there will be assholes to supply it.
- Tyrannical
- Posts: 6468
- Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 4:59 am
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
starting as early as 2020, or as late as never.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. 

Resident in Cairns Australia • Current ride> 2014 Honda CB500F • Travel photos https://500px.com/p/macdoc?view=galleries
- cronus
- Black Market Analyst
- Posts: 18122
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
- About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
- Location: United Kingdom
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole?macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch.

What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
- JimC
- The sentimental bloke
- Posts: 74201
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
- About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Sure, who needs all those penguins...Scrumple wrote:Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole?macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch.

Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!
And my gin!
- cronus
- Black Market Analyst
- Posts: 18122
- Joined: Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:09 pm
- About me: Illis quos amo deserviam
- Location: United Kingdom
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Penguins have had it good for far too long.JimC wrote:Sure, who needs all those penguins...Scrumple wrote:Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole?macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch.
What will the world be like after its ruler is removed?
- JimC
- The sentimental bloke
- Posts: 74201
- Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:58 am
- About me: To be serious about gin requires years of dedicated research.
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
The ones eaten by leopard seals would beg to disagree...
Nurse, where the fuck's my cardigan?
And my gin!
And my gin!
- rainbow
- Posts: 13767
- Joined: Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:10 am
- About me: Egal wie dicht du bist, Goethe war Dichter
Where ever you are, Goethe was a Poet. - Location: Africa
- Contact:
Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature
Scrumple wrote:Penguins have had it good for far too long.JimC wrote:Sure, who needs all those penguins...Scrumple wrote:Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole?macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch.

I call bullshit - Alfred E Einstein
BArF−4
BArF−4
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 4 guests