Unprecedented shift in temperature

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Unprecedented shift in temperature

Post by cronus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:17 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scien ... 69608.html

Unprecedented shift in temperature will begin to hit tropics in less than a decade

Tropical regions will experience the greatest shifts in climate this century with some equatorial areas experiencing unprecedented changes as early as the next few decades, a study has found.

Scientists discovered that the tropics, which are home to the highest densities of wildlife as well as some of the most vulnerable human populations on the planet, will be hit hardest and earliest by climate extremes.

A “meta-analysis” of future climate predictions culled from 39 global computer models used in climate research found that tropical regions are expected to cross the threshold into unprecedented climate change significantly earlier than other areas of the world. If industrial emissions of greenhouse gases remain unchanged in a “business-as-usual” scenario then some tropical regions, such as Jamaica and Indonesia, could see a shift into new climate territory as early as the next decade, the scientists warned.

“The results shocked us. Regardless of the scenario, changes will be coming sooner. Within my generation, whatever climate we were used to will be a thing of the past,” said Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii, the lead author of the study published in the journal Nature. “On average, the tropics will experience unprecedented climate [change] 16 years earlier than the rest of the world, starting as early as 2020,” Dr Mora said.

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Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature

Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:40 am

Everybody knows that the Arctic ice cap is recovering, so all these studies are just guesswork! It's all a scam to give money to researchers, because they're always so well paid.

Anyway, here's a graph to prove it.

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Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:27 pm

What's interesting is the ANTarctic sea-ice extent, which is the highest ever on record. That's right.
Last years was a record, and this years was greater still.

Looking at global temperatures, the ice SHOULD be decreasing. We are right at the top of the interglacial temperature cycle.
The current ocean temperatures are the result of MUCH colder temperatures, over many thousands of years. The oceans SHOULD be getting warmer. And If the ice wasn't decreasing, it would be amazing.
It's happened before, many times.
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Post by Tyrannical » Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:41 pm

I'm shocked that article is current and not ten plus years old.
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Post by rainbow » Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:21 pm

mistermack wrote:What's interesting is the ANTarctic sea-ice extent, which is the highest ever on record. That's right.
Last years was a record, and this years was greater still.

Looking at global temperatures, the ice SHOULD be decreasing. We are right at the top of the interglacial temperature cycle.
The current ocean temperatures are the result of MUCH colder temperatures, over many thousands of years. The oceans SHOULD be getting warmer. And If the ice wasn't decreasing, it would be amazing.
It's happened before, many times.
That is because ice is lighter than water, and is rising to the top of the world
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Post by cronus » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:02 pm

Same thing happened on Mars...ice on one pole and atmosphere on the other. :coffee:
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Post by Coito ergo sum » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:31 pm

:dp2:

I predict that the Earth will cool and New Yorkers will be able to walk across New York Harbor and the East River instead of taking trains and subways.

Then later, it will warm and the ice will mostly go away, opening travel across the north Atlantic and usher in a new age of exploration and travel for northern Europeans.

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Post by mistermack » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:30 pm

The Independent wrote::The results shocked us. Regardless of the scenario, changes will be coming sooner. Within my generation, whatever climate we were used to will be a thing of the past,” said Camilo Mora of the University of Hawaii, the lead author of the study published in the journal Nature. “On average, the tropics will experience unprecedented climate [change] 16 years earlier than the rest of the world, starting as early as 2020,” Dr Mora said.
Publications like ''Nature'' are devaluing their credibility by publishing shit like this. Peer review is now allowing pure speculation to get published. What's next? Will they be publishing science fiction, on the grounds that it ''could'' happen?
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Post by Tyrannical » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:39 am

starting as early as 2020, or as late as never.
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Post by macdoc » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:29 am

hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. :coffee:
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Post by cronus » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:33 am

macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. :coffee:
Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole? :coffee:
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Post by JimC » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:48 am

Scrumple wrote:
macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. :coffee:
Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole? :coffee:
Sure, who needs all those penguins... :roll:
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Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature

Post by cronus » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:49 am

JimC wrote:
Scrumple wrote:
macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. :coffee:
Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole? :coffee:
Sure, who needs all those penguins... :roll:
Penguins have had it good for far too long.
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Post by JimC » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:50 am

The ones eaten by leopard seals would beg to disagree...
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Re: Unprecedented shift in temperature

Post by rainbow » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:07 am

Scrumple wrote:
JimC wrote:
Scrumple wrote:
macdoc wrote:hehe the polar bears got nothin' on scrabbling around on thin ice the deniers are reduced to.....rather amusing to watch. :coffee:
Polar bears need to adapt quick now or they're sunk. Radical thinking ecologists could transfer them to the South Pole? :coffee:
Sure, who needs all those penguins... :roll:
Penguins have had it good for far too long.
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