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Post by Trinity » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:33 am

I'm sure anyone here who drives a vehicle has experienced that "zoning out" and afterwards when you suddenly become aware that you've no recollection of part of a journey or any physical movements you've made to drive said vehicle-you've been on "auto pilot". I experience this particularly when driving on roads I know very well. However, the other day I was driving a road I travel almost daily and it goes past the lane leading to the house I lived at for 15 years (but left last November) and before I was aware of my actions, I had taken a left turn into the lane, as if I was heading home. This surprised me so much, as I had not once done such a thing since I'd moved 9 months ago. It made me think why a part of my unconscious brain made me make that choice when I have been driving past that lane consistently since I moved out. I read somewhere that it can take only 30 ish days to "train" your mind to adopt new behaviours so why i this instance had I regressed to a former behaviour? Faulty wiring!!
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Re: Muscle memory

Post by PsychoSerenity » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:50 am

Yeah the 'auto pilot' thing scared me a lot when I first experienced it, driving along the same empty country lanes to work each day, suddenly I noticed had no recollection of the journey. But one of my friends who was studying neuro-psychology said it's perfectly normal and not dangerous - if anything unexpected happens it comes straight back into conciousness. But as you found out, as long as it thinks everything is normal, you have no idea where it might take you! Maybe on some level you were reminiscing and it took your memories as 'now'.
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Post by FBM » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:19 am

I teach my students about muscle memory as it pertains to learning pronunciation and speaking phrases and collocations. I think it helps them. They say it does, anyway.
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Post by Animavore » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:39 am

I thought 'muscle memory' was that phenomenon by which if you give up doing weights or other exercise for a couple of years and get back into it your body tones up a lot faster?
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Post by FBM » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:23 am

That may be included, but I don't think it's the main definition. The main meaning has more to do with encoding behavior.
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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:35 pm

There are some phone numbers I only remember by typing them out.
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Post by Robert_S » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:39 pm

hadespussercats wrote:There are some phone numbers I only remember by typing them out.
Me too. There are also places I can go, but can't reliably give directions to. :teef:

Reminds me of that guy from the Oliver Sachs book who has crippling amnesia and can't remember more than a few seconds ago, but can conduct an orchestra because the procedural memory is a different thing altogether.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:32 pm

I do this sort of thing all the time, too. - Most commonly, if rolling a cigarette, I sometimes pull out three ciggy papers and start sticking them together. This has caused some strange looks from certain people in the past. :oops:
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Post by Trinity » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:40 pm

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:I do this sort of thing all the time, too. - Most commonly, if rolling a cigarette, I sometimes pull out three ciggy papers and start sticking them together. This has caused some strange looks from certain people in the past. :oops:
Haha! Done that too :)

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Post by tattuchu » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:46 pm

When I dream at night, and it's a dream in which I'm at home doing something or other (usually masturbating :what: ), I'm always in the house I grew up in. I haven't lived in that house for twenty-five years :what:
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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:14 pm

JacksSmirkingRevenge wrote:I do this sort of thing all the time, too. - Most commonly, if rolling a cigarette, I sometimes pull out three ciggy papers and start sticking them together. This has caused some strange looks from certain people in the past. :oops:
When I was smoking, I'd sometimes forget I was smoking and have a second one rolled up and lit before I realized.
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Re: Muscle memory

Post by hadespussercats » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:27 pm

Robert_S wrote:
hadespussercats wrote:There are some phone numbers I only remember by typing them out.
Me too. There are also places I can go, but can't reliably give directions to. :teef:

Reminds me of that guy from the Oliver Sachs book who has crippling amnesia and can't remember more than a few seconds ago, but can conduct an orchestra because the procedural memory is a different thing altogether.
I remember that story! That book was so interesting.
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Post by Cormac » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:45 pm

Trinity wrote:I'm sure anyone here who drives a vehicle has experienced that "zoning out" and afterwards when you suddenly become aware that you've no recollection of part of a journey or any physical movements you've made to drive said vehicle-you've been on "auto pilot". I experience this particularly when driving on roads I know very well. However, the other day I was driving a road I travel almost daily and it goes past the lane leading to the house I lived at for 15 years (but left last November) and before I was aware of my actions, I had taken a left turn into the lane, as if I was heading home. This surprised me so much, as I had not once done such a thing since I'd moved 9 months ago. It made me think why a part of my unconscious brain made me make that choice when I have been driving past that lane consistently since I moved out. I read somewhere that it can take only 30 ish days to "train" your mind to adopt new behaviours so why i this instance had I regressed to a former behaviour? Faulty wiring!!
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Re: Muscle memory

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:55 pm

It was one of the things I used to stress when I taught guitar. It is not your brain that learns to hold the chords but your fingers. All new chords feel awkward and wrong at first - but practice changing between the new chord and those that you already know and then, suddenly, you can play it without thinking.

The same is true of any physical activity - try actually thinking about tying a shoe-lace or a tie and see how far you get!
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Post by mistermack » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:23 pm

Its the same with touch-typing.

I just think the words, and they appear on the screen. If I had to do it by sight, it would take five times as long.
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