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Racism vs IQ

Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:29 am

http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by Svartalf » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:41 am

IQ being completely detached from being rational (let's remember about highly intelligent Nazi doctors who went to incredible length to rationalize "racial science", or the fact that a serial killer like Ed Kemper has an IQ likely far above Einstein's), I regard the racism = low IQ equation as itself a proof of low IQ on the part of whoever formulates it.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by cronus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:51 am

Kill 'em with science. :tup:

Japan is a deeply racist society. But let's not go there? :coffee:
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by rainbow » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:22 pm

Svartalf wrote:IQ being completely detached from being rational (let's remember about highly intelligent Nazi doctors who went to incredible length to rationalize "racial science", or the fact that a serial killer like Ed Kemper has an IQ likely far above Einstein's), I regard the racism = low IQ equation as itself a proof of low IQ on the part of whoever formulates it.
I don't think that equation was formulated, so it can't be proof of anything.
There are possibly intelligent racists, but they are just outnumbered by the dumb ones.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by cronus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 pm

rainbow wrote:
Svartalf wrote:IQ being completely detached from being rational (let's remember about highly intelligent Nazi doctors who went to incredible length to rationalize "racial science", or the fact that a serial killer like Ed Kemper has an IQ likely far above Einstein's), I regard the racism = low IQ equation as itself a proof of low IQ on the part of whoever formulates it.
I don't think that equation was formulated, so it can't be proof of anything.
There are possibly intelligent racists, but they are just outnumbered by the dumb ones.
....above IQ 145 it becomes less and less easy to find anyone who isn't dumb in some way, no matter the color or not. :coffee:
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Post by Rum » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:30 pm

We have strong evidence of this hypothesis amongst our membership here.

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Re: Racism vs IQ

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Rum wrote:We have strong evidence of this hypothesis amongst our membership here.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by Tyrannical » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:55 pm

Anti-racism is almost purely a White, Western phenomenon.
Unless they perceive themselves being discriminated against, "people of color" care little for anti-racism. Look at the long history of famous human rights activists, almost all the non-White ones are famous for only helping their own ethnic group and occasionally an indigenous local minority.
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Post by pErvinalia » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:18 pm

rainbow wrote:http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by cronus » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:25 pm

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rainbow wrote:http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
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rainbow wrote:http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
More likely - How much more likely?
Tend to - How significant is this tendency?
That can - How often does it?

Weaselly wording for a weaselly study performed by a psychologist. As Svartalf already said, there is a large body of evidence that intelligence is not, repeat not, a causal factor in rational thinking. Feel good rubbish.

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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:33 pm

Făkünamę wrote:
rainbow wrote:http://www.livescience.com/18132-intell ... acism.html
There's no gentle way to put it: People who give in to racism and prejudice may simply be dumb, according to a new study that is bound to stir public controversy.

The research finds that children with low intelligence are more likely to hold prejudiced attitudes as adults. These findings point to a vicious cycle, according to lead researcher Gordon Hodson, a psychologist at Brock University in Ontario. Low-intelligence adults tend to gravitate toward socially conservative ideologies, the study found. Those ideologies, in turn, stress hierarchy and resistance to change, attitudes that can contribute to prejudice, Hodson wrote in an email to LiveScience.
More likely - How much more likely?
Tend to - How significant is this tendency?
That can - How often does it?

Weaselly wording for a weaselly study performed by a psychologist. As Svartalf already said, there is a large body of evidence that intelligence is not, repeat not, a causal factor in rational thinking. Feel good rubbish.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by Seabass » Thu Apr 25, 2013 3:25 am

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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by rainbow » Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:28 am

Făkünamę wrote: As Svartalf already said, there is a large body of evidence that intelligence is not, repeat not, a causal factor in rational thinking.
Please provide this 'large body of evidence'.
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Re: Racism vs IQ

Post by Tyrannical » Thu Apr 25, 2013 9:56 am

There is a form of mental retardation that makes it's victims non-racist, of course their average IQ is ~70. Culturally biased against them no doubt :{D

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100412/ ... 0.176.html
Children with a neurodevelopmental disorder called Williams syndrome (WS) are overly friendly because they do not fear strangers. Now, a study shows that these children also do not develop negative attitudes about other ethnic groups, even though they show patterns of gender stereotyping found in other children.
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