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by devogue » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:04 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14289114
Physicists have confirmed the ultimate speed limit for the packets of light called photons - making time travel even less likely than thought.
The speed of light in vacuum is the Universe's ultimate speed limit, but experiments in recent years suggested that single photons might beat it.
If they could, theory allows for the prospect of time travel.
Now, a paper in Physical Review Letters shows that individual photons too are limited to the vacuum speed limit.
Bastards.

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by Geoff » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:06 pm
devogue wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14289114
Physicists have confirmed the ultimate speed limit for the packets of light called photons - making time travel even less likely than thought.
The speed of light in vacuum is the Universe's ultimate speed limit, but experiments in recent years suggested that single photons might beat it.
If they could, theory allows for the prospect of time travel.
Now, a paper in Physical Review Letters shows that individual photons too are limited to the vacuum speed limit.
Bastards.

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by mistermack » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:05 pm
So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
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by Rum » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:11 pm
mistermack wrote:So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
Ten seconds in the future doesn't exist...but look! I'm there already!

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by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:14 pm
mistermack wrote:So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
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by mistermack » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:38 pm
Rum wrote:mistermack wrote:So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
Ten seconds in the future doesn't exist...but look! I'm there already!

Nope, you're still in the present !!
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by devogue » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:39 pm
mistermack wrote:Rum wrote:mistermack wrote:So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
Ten seconds in the future doesn't exist...but look! I'm there already!

Nope, you're still in the present !!
Now he's in the past!
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by mistermack » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:42 pm
devogue wrote:mistermack wrote:Rum wrote:
Ten seconds in the future doesn't exist...but look! I'm there already!

Nope, you're still in the present !!
Now he's in the past!
He was a warm and wonderful human being, and will be greatly missed !

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by Geoff » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:47 pm
devogue wrote:mistermack wrote:Rum wrote:mistermack wrote:So they are finally admitting the bleed'n obvious?
You can't travel through something that doesn't exist.
Time is just a property of movement. Elapsed time is just a record of the movement of the universe. And the future doesn't exist, so you can never go there.
How the fuck did they think you could go somewhere that doesn't exist?
Ten seconds in the future doesn't exist...but look! I'm there already!

Nope, you're still in the present !!
Now he's in the past!
You mean he was in the past...
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by Svartalf » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:17 am
Actually, they are morons... Cherenkov luminescence is due to photons passing through the fluid faster than the speed of light is it not?
That, and they deal in absolutes for things that Einsteind himself did not claim he understood.
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by Feck » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:26 am
And how do you deal with Tolman's paradox ?
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by Svartalf » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:44 am
I accept it and will wait until a new paradigm is found that reconciles it.
After all, it's a thought experiment, a hypothesis on what consequences FTL movment might have, not an absolute law of physics.
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by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:45 am
Feck wrote:And how do you deal with Tolman's paradox ?
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by Xamonas Chegwé » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:49 am
Feck wrote:And how do you deal with Tolman's paradox ?
...by asking whoever brings it up to show proof of a tachyon particle. Or proof of invisible, pink unicorns, which would function just as well.

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by Feck » Wed Jul 27, 2011 1:58 am
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Feck wrote:And how do you deal with Tolman's paradox ?
...by asking whoever brings it up to show proof of a tachyon particle. Or proof of invisible, pink unicorns, which would function just as well.

No time travel for you then XC

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