How to encourage fuel conservation

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by FBM » Wed May 22, 2013 2:29 pm

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FBM wrote:Waste (not fresh) veggie oil instead of diesel. I forget exactly when I started but it's been about 5 years now.
You must eat a LOT of fish & chips. :coffee:
I wish. A few years ago, I bought an insane amount from the campus cafeteria. I've still got a hundred or two liters left, but this summer should do that in. Will have to find a new supplier, as I'm with a different university now. Haven't approached their cafeteria staff yet. But I will...I will... :plot:
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by pErvinalia » Wed May 22, 2013 2:54 pm

do you refine it? You can't put that shit straight in your engine. You will severely shorten its life span.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by FBM » Wed May 22, 2013 3:00 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:do you refine it? You can't put that shit straight in your engine. You will severely shorten its life span.
All I do is run it through a large auto oil filter. The drawback to not doing the full bio-diesel thing is that I can only run with 100% veggie oil in warm weather. In chilly weather I have to blend it with kerosene, and in cold weather I have to go back to regular diesel.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

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You're going to fuck your engine.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by FBM » Wed May 22, 2013 3:05 pm

rEvolutionist wrote:You're going to fuck your engine.
5 years and counting. :dunno:


That said, I've fucked a few fuel filters in the process of experimenting with pre-filtering processes, but it's sorted now.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Jason » Wed May 22, 2013 5:06 pm

Mysturji wrote: So you're one of those people that think only half-filling your tank each time means you use less fuel?
Reality check: It just means you have to fill (half) up more often, and you increase your chances of running out in the middle of nowhere, thus causing the AA to use even more fuel to bring you 5 litres at double the price.
No. That's why I said the number of fillups would have to be controlled. It's meant to reduce consumption by rewarding those who buy less fuel with cheaper prices. You can fill up your Humvee with 200litres of fuel, but it'll cost you dearly. Drive a moped instead.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Mysturji » Thu May 23, 2013 3:34 pm

Yeah. That'll work.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by rainbow » Fri May 24, 2013 7:34 am

FBM wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:do you refine it? You can't put that shit straight in your engine. You will severely shorten its life span.
All I do is run it through a large auto oil filter. The drawback to not doing the full bio-diesel thing is that I can only run with 100% veggie oil in warm weather. In chilly weather I have to blend it with kerosene, and in cold weather I have to go back to regular diesel.
Transesterify it with methanol/methoxide and remove the glycerol.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Warren Dew » Sat May 25, 2013 12:24 am

JimC wrote:
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Tyrannical wrote:Is David Cameron 'deeply' concerned enough to take on OPEC?

The funny thing about OPEC is that all the member nations are food importers.
Indeed. The only problem is that we subsidize them indirectly by subsidizing the agriculture industry. As if we didn't already send enough of our money to OPEC.
Try cutting off their food supplies and see what happens...

Within a year, all that oil is burning away, fuelling desalination plants from Morocco to Tehran while we hitch horses to our Beemers. :tea:
I know. I don't want to cut off their fuel supply, though - I just want to charge them what it costs to grow the food they buy.

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Ethanol powered, then!

Iowa has to be good for something!
Sadly, that won't work either - Iowa's corn crops need fossil fuel based fertilizer.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Jason » Sat May 25, 2013 4:05 am

Warren Dew wrote: Sadly, that won't work either - Iowa's corn crops need fossil fuel based fertilizer.
Horse shit.

Is high in nitrogen.. artificial may contain more nitrogen than natural fertilizers, but they are not 'needed'.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat May 25, 2013 10:07 am

Făkünamę wrote:
Warren Dew wrote: Sadly, that won't work either - Iowa's corn crops need fossil fuel based fertilizer.
Horse shit.

Is high in nitrogen.. artificial may contain more nitrogen than natural fertilizers, but they are not 'needed'.
Yep, crop rotation is more cost effective than adding fertilizer. And soy beans are actually more versatile than wheat or corn.
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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Warren Dew » Sun May 26, 2013 3:10 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
Făkünamę wrote:
Warren Dew wrote: Sadly, that won't work either - Iowa's corn crops need fossil fuel based fertilizer.
Horse shit.

Is high in nitrogen.. artificial may contain more nitrogen than natural fertilizers, but they are not 'needed'.
Yep, crop rotation is more cost effective than adding fertilizer. And soy beans are actually more versatile than wheat or corn.
Crop rotation would reduce the output enough that we wouldn't have the extra corn for ethanol, among other beneficial effects.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by Jason » Sun May 26, 2013 3:12 am

That's right. You'd have to stop relying on petroleum products to produce enough corn so you can decrease the consumption of petroleum products.

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by rainbow » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:01 am

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Re: How to encourage fuel conservation

Post by pErvinalia » Mon Jun 03, 2013 11:23 am

Don't work.
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