Runaway pulsar has astronomers scratching their heads

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Re: Runaway pulsar has astronomers scratching their heads

Post by Rum » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:25 am

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Rum wrote:Not true...as usual.
Expert on these things Rum? You seem to know a lot more than the average Joe.
Just an average reasonably well educated individual who knows enough to know that as far as we can tell exceeding the speed of light isn't possible. Most reasonably well educated people know this...

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Post by cronus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:39 am

Rum wrote:
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Rum wrote:Not true...as usual.
Expert on these things Rum? You seem to know a lot more than the average Joe.
Just an average reasonably well educated individual who knows enough to know that as far as we can tell exceeding the speed of light isn't possible. Most reasonably well educated people know this...
Quantum telecomunications, action at a distance....Einstein didn't like the spooky truth. :coffee:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:53 am

That's "information", not matter.
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Post by FBM » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:19 am

rEvolutionist wrote:That's "information", not matter.
What would the medium by which this information traveled at superluminal speeds? I haven't been keeping up with the latest in this area.
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Post by Rum » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:21 am

It is pretty impossible to understand for the likes of me - I think you need proper maffs to really.

It is all about dimensions and shit they reckon.

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Post by cronus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:26 am

Rum wrote:It is pretty impossible to understand for the likes of me - I think you need proper maffs to really.

It is all about dimensions and shit they reckon.
Rum stumped? A stop and think event occurs? :zig:
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Post by FBM » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:27 am

It's an entangled mess to me, too, Rum. :think:
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:41 am

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rEvolutionist wrote:That's "information", not matter.
What would the medium by which this information traveled at superluminal speeds? I haven't been keeping up with the latest in this area.
The medium is quantum fields, I suppose. "Spooky action at a distance" it is called. I think that pretty much sums up how unlikely it is regular citizens like us are to ever understand it.
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Post by cronus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:50 am

Mass is information. When you weigh something you are extracting information nothing else. From this many things follow. You'll get my point in a century or so. Soon after that we'll have WARP drive capability. :coffee:
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rEvolutionist wrote:That's "information", not matter.
What would the medium by which this information traveled at superluminal speeds? I haven't been keeping up with the latest in this area.
The medium is quantum fields, I suppose. "Spooky action at a distance" it is called. I think that pretty much sums up how unlikely it is regular citizens like us are to ever understand it.
I don't see how quantum fields would explain entanglement, but maybe somebody more familiar with it, like MiM, will be pop in and catch us up to date.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:04 am

Scumple wrote:Mass is information.
But information isn't mass.

You were saying?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:05 am

FBM wrote:
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rEvolutionist wrote:That's "information", not matter.
What would the medium by which this information traveled at superluminal speeds? I haven't been keeping up with the latest in this area.
The medium is quantum fields, I suppose. "Spooky action at a distance" it is called. I think that pretty much sums up how unlikely it is regular citizens like us are to ever understand it.
I don't see how quantum fields would explain entanglement, but maybe somebody more familiar with it, like MiM, will be pop in and catch us up to date.
Well how do you explain gravity, or electro-magnetic fields? Those are instantaneous action at a distance. Just like quantum entanglement (in the abstract; and perhaps literally).
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Post by FBM » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:13 am

Those are actions at a distance, but they don't require superluminal speeds, as far as I know.
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Post by cronus » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:23 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Scumple wrote:Mass is information.
But information isn't mass.

You were saying?
How do you know? Every equation is 'written' on a medium. Every piece of information carries informal mass. Or you wouldn't know about it. :vistors:
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Re: Runaway pulsar has astronomers scratching their heads

Post by Hermit » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:25 am

rEvolutionist wrote:Well how do you explain gravity, or electro-magnetic fields? Those are instantaneous action at a distance.
Bollocks. Both travel at the speed of light. Look it up. It took me two minutes to check. In case you can't be bothered spending that much time on googling it for yourself, just click on this and this.
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