Firefox contains spyware (probably)

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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 8:59 am

JimC wrote:Shit, Apple is not the fucking anti-christ!

I get a little sick of the holier than thou attitude...
Stop being so smug about using the the greedy cunts' offerings, and you'll get a little less flak for supporting them in word and deed.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by JimC » Fri May 03, 2013 9:00 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:Shit, Apple is not the fucking anti-christ!

I get a little sick of the holier than thou attitude...
Stop being so smug about using the the greedy cunts' offerings, and you'll get a little less flak for supporting them in word and deed.
Fuck off...
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 9:13 am

JimC wrote:
Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:Shit, Apple is not the fucking anti-christ!

I get a little sick of the holier than thou attitude...
Stop being so smug about using the the greedy cunts' offerings, and you'll get a little less flak for supporting them in word and deed.
Fuck off...
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Azathoth » Fri May 03, 2013 10:00 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:I say yes to everything...
That's because you you use a computer platform with such a small market share that no malware and virus programmers have an interest in expending time on. No reason to feel smug about it. In fact, I'd feel embarrassed if I supported Apple Corp. It's monopolistic and avaricious modus operandi makes any other computer company look charitable in comparison. Your mindset has slipped a long way since your SDS days, hasn't it?
It is more to do with the unix base of apple OS. While not impossible it is a lot more difficult to be destructive or gain access to things that you aren't authorised for with the way the filesystem and permissions are laid out. I am quite surprised that there aren't more floating about now with the boom in iThings.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 03, 2013 10:35 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:There is a limit to what one can give a fuck about, and it decreases with age...

As I'm sure you are aware...
Yes, but I hope my inability to give a fuck will not come so close to zero that it will enable me to knowingly support products by companies by buying or using them that are as antisocially avaricious as Apple Corp.
Apple is hardly that different to Microsoft. Get over it.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 03, 2013 10:36 am

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:Shit, Apple is not the fucking anti-christ!

I get a little sick of the holier than thou attitude...
Stop being so smug about using the the greedy cunts' offerings, and you'll get a little less flak for supporting them in word and deed.
Because Microsoft isn't greedy.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 10:37 am

Azathoth wrote:
Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:I say yes to everything...
That's because you you use a computer platform with such a small market share that no malware and virus programmers have an interest in expending time on. No reason to feel smug about it. In fact, I'd feel embarrassed if I supported Apple Corp. It's monopolistic and avaricious modus operandi makes any other computer company look charitable in comparison. Your mindset has slipped a long way since your SDS days, hasn't it?
It is more to do with the unix base of apple OS. While not impossible it is a lot more difficult to be destructive or gain access to things that you aren't authorised for with the way the filesystem and permissions are laid out. I am quite surprised that there aren't more floating about now with the boom in iThings.
Speaking as a non-expert in this matter I venture to say that if Apple had the market share Micro$oft owns just now, enough resources would be thrown at the former's OS by hackers that the situation would look virtually indistinguishable compared to the one pertaining now, except for the role reversal. With the millions of lines of codes, permissions are not overcome. A weakness will be found elsewhere, allowing them to be circumvented. At any rate, the spyware mentioned in the OP is not hacking any OS. It is slipping into computer systems due to their owners' guilelessness and gullibility. JimC's smugness about his new-found Mac faith borders on gloating, and his repetitive comments in that regard have become irritating to me.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by JimC » Fri May 03, 2013 10:42 am

At the moment, irritating you is a significant plus, so I shall continue with great glee.

Go Apple!
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 10:45 am

rEvolutionist wrote:
Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:There is a limit to what one can give a fuck about, and it decreases with age...

As I'm sure you are aware...
Yes, but I hope my inability to give a fuck will not come so close to zero that it will enable me to knowingly support products by companies by buying or using them that are as antisocially avaricious as Apple Corp.
Apple is hardly that different to Microsoft. Get over it.
It's different enough to matter to me. The first thing Steve Jobs did when he resumed the leadership of Apple was to axe all of the company's charitable programs. Microsoft's profits are indeed significant, but they pale in comparison to Apple's 23% on turnover. The latter is clearly way more exploitative than the former. I am glad Apple Corp only commands 8% of the market for home consumers and less than that elsewhere.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 10:48 am

JimC wrote:At the moment, irritating you is a significant plus, so I shall continue with great glee.

Go Apple!
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 03, 2013 10:50 am

Pistols at dawn, gentlemen?
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Hermit » Fri May 03, 2013 10:54 am

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Pistols at dawn, gentlemen?
That's not how things are settled in Australia, mate. :mrgreen:
We're more likely to do that with a chat while having a drink together.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by pErvinalia » Fri May 03, 2013 10:55 am

Hermit wrote:
Azathoth wrote:
Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:I say yes to everything...
That's because you you use a computer platform with such a small market share that no malware and virus programmers have an interest in expending time on. No reason to feel smug about it. In fact, I'd feel embarrassed if I supported Apple Corp. It's monopolistic and avaricious modus operandi makes any other computer company look charitable in comparison. Your mindset has slipped a long way since your SDS days, hasn't it?
It is more to do with the unix base of apple OS. While not impossible it is a lot more difficult to be destructive or gain access to things that you aren't authorised for with the way the filesystem and permissions are laid out. I am quite surprised that there aren't more floating about now with the boom in iThings.
Speaking as a non-expert in this matter I venture to say that if Apple had the market share Micro$oft owns just now, enough resources would be thrown at the former's OS by hackers that the situation would look virtually indistinguishable compared to the one pertaining now, except for the role reversal. With the millions of lines of codes, permissions are not overcome. A weakness will be found elsewhere, allowing them to be circumvented. At any rate, the spyware mentioned in the OP is not hacking any OS. It is slipping into computer systems due to their owners' guilelessness and gullibility. JimC's smugness about his new-found Mac faith borders on gloating, and his repetitive comments in that regard have become irritating to me.
Luckily you are speaking as a non-expert, as what you said is pretty baseless. Unix is a totally different architecture from Windows, and was built with security foremost in it's design. The design itself makes security breaches WAY harder than with Windows.
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri May 03, 2013 10:56 am

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Pistols at dawn, gentlemen?
That's not how things are settled in Australia, mate. :mrgreen:
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Re: Firefox contains spyware (probably)

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