That clinches it! 'twas god wot dun it!!Robert_S wrote:What are the odds that any given multiverse would contain at least one universe that contained at least one galaxy that contained at least one star that had at least one planet orbiting it that is capable of giving rise to and supporting life?JimC wrote:And, in the entire Multiverse, only a handful of Universes have the physical parameters that allow life to evolve...
And we are inhabiting one!
Freaky, or what!
I just got the life on earth 'odds' thing!
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Actually, if the universe is truly infinite, the probability that somewhere in it, right now, is another copy of you, reading another copy of this message, from another copy of me, approaches 1.JimC wrote:I am being an old fuddy-duddy, and assuming only one Multiverse...Robert_S wrote:What are the odds that any given multiverse would contain at least one universe that contained at least one galaxy that contained at least one star that had at least one planet orbiting it that is capable of giving rise to and supporting life?JimC wrote:And, in the entire Multiverse, only a handful of Universes have the physical parameters that allow life to evolve...
And we are inhabiting one!
Freaky, or what!
If an unlimited number of universes can "bud off" from it, then the odds would approach certainty, I would think...
In fact, it's even worse: the probability that an infinite number of such copies exist approaches 1. The interesting parameter is how far apart they are on average.
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You drop orders of magnitude a few times in that sequence!Gawdzilla wrote:Life would only take one second or so to get started.
3,500,000,000 years of life on Earth (mimimum) X 365 =
1,277,500,000,000 days X 24 =
30,660,000,000 hours. X 60 =
1,839,600,000,000,000 minutes X 60 =
110,376,000,000,000 seconds.

The final line should read... 110,376,000,000,000,000
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Which observer would that be, then?Robert_S wrote:Just like it is almost certain tht someone will eventually win the lottery, even though any particular person faces very steep odds; It was not so improbable that life would arise somewhere in the universe, but it was very improbable that it would arise in any particular place an observer would have placed bets on.Rum wrote:One of the refuges of religion is the 'wonder' of life and it's creation - and indeed its unique nature. I have tended to dismisses this for the obvious reasons but the image clicked tonight for some reason.
The odds of life arising in the form we know - developing on a celular evolutionary basis, are probably enormously remote. Possibly inncredibly so.
But consider this - if you win the lottery here in the Uk the odds are 14 million to one. The Euro lottery is something like 150 million to one.
Whatever the odds of something happening, unless they are so impossibly remote, the universe is so huge and the number of environments and combination of potential combination of circumstances so huge, that our existence is no real surprise at all.
Which begs the question, how freaky and weird are other examples of the universe developing systems capable of looking at itself out there!?

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You gotta replace all those with "four" unless the child is devlopmentally deficient.apophenia wrote:"How old are you?" "Twelve!"
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