Antidepressents don't do jeebers for mild depression

[stripes4]

I was on the horrific Seroxat, courtesty of glaxo. I think they trailed it on me. Didn't suit. Understatement of the year.

[DRSB]

Never resign and despair before you've tried Traditional Chinese Medicine. I cannot stop marvelling at what they do! Sometimes, I drag a nasty thing like a shoulder ache for weeks, trying all sorts of creams that don't help, then tell my Chinese doctor about it, he puts the needles and some glasses, and it's, gone! When I tell him "I've had troubles sleeping lately", he knows what to do as well. The Chinese are a great people, I'm a fan!

[Atheist-Lite]

Never resign and despair before you've tried Traditional Chinese Medicine. I cannot stop marvelling at what they do! Sometimes, I drag a nasty thing like a shoulder ache for weeks, trying all sorts of creams that don't help, then tell my Chinese doctor about it, he puts the needles and some glasses, and it's, gone! When I tell him "I've had troubles sleeping lately", he knows what to do as well. The Chinese are a great people, I'm a fan!

Placebo effect. You admire the Chinese and feel much better after a few needles.


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[Ayaan]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

[stripes4]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

[DRSB]

Never resign and despair before you've tried Traditional Chinese Medicine. I cannot stop marvelling at what they do! Sometimes, I drag a nasty thing like a shoulder ache for weeks, trying all sorts of creams that don't help, then tell my Chinese doctor about it, he puts the needles and some glasses, and it's, gone! When I tell him "I've had troubles sleeping lately", he knows what to do as well. The Chinese are a great people, I'm a fan!

Placebo effect. You admire the Chinese and feel much better after a few needles.


http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=252

You bet, it's the other way round! I credit my Chinese doctor with a great deal!

[DRSB]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

This is what the Chinese do, they call it holistic, or wholistic.

Depression or not, in order to feel better, get more sleep, do whatever it takes to get more sleep.

[Atheist-Lite]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

This is what the Chinese do, they call it holistic, or wholistic.

Depression or not, in order to feel better, get more sleep, do whatever it takes to get more sleep.

Their so holistic in China they even lock up people in their asylums based on their political views.

[DRSB]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

This is what the Chinese do, they call it holistic, or wholistic.

Depression or not, in order to feel better, get more sleep, do whatever it takes to get more sleep.

Their so holistic in China they even lock up people in their asylums based on their political views.

This is something else, politics is no medicine.

[Atheist-Lite]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

This is what the Chinese do, they call it holistic, or wholistic.

Depression or not, in order to feel better, get more sleep, do whatever it takes to get more sleep.

Their so holistic in China they even lock up people in their asylums based on their political views.

This is something else, politics is no medicine.

If this could be explained to the Chinese doctors I'm sure some people will be very happy to be free.

[M]

There are people for whom the medications don't work. But even when they do work, most people also find that exercise, changes in diet, sleep, talk therapy, and other life changes help. It's not an all one way or the other proposition. In a more perfect world, doctors wouldn't just throw pills at depression, but would work with the patient to develop a well-rounded treatment plan that may or may not include drugs.

Agreed. I spent 2 years avoiding medication and had a very sympathetic GP who allowed me to pursue other avenues. Eventually I decided to try the drugs and wished I'd done it sooner! She also reminds me whenever I see her, that I can revisit any of these alternatives whenever I feel I might want to.

[Svartalf]

http://neuroskeptic.blogspot.com/2011/0 ... -mild.html

Skip the docs with their snakeoil cures and go to the pub. The pub is were you'll find a genuine support group.

What my instinct tell me, but NHS doesn't pay for a prescription of 4 daily pints.

Beside that, I've been in severe depression for the most part of the last 20 years, including all of the last ten, but when I reach a point when I've stopped crying all the time, the meds don't do much, especially since I fear I may have developed major tolerance.

[kiki5711]

Placebos are so powerful that a depressent like a glass of wine or two can lift you out of feeling miserable.

Yes surely it works, until one glass isn't enough any more and you find yourself drinking 3 bottles a day. Then you go to the doctor cuzzz you developed anxiety and can't sleep at night. So you start taking pills for those, EXCEPT, you haven't given up your litter of wine for the day, so the pills just become an additional addiction which spirals you totally out of control.

No, drinking is not the answer.

[Aos Si]

I take them every year for six months Sep to March and they turned my life around, but then my condition was severe and now its clinical. Very useful in treating SAD and those with more serious depression, but definitely over subscribed.

[aprilmae]

Fish oil has been shown to help with depression and even severe disorders like schizophrenia in some patients. I suffer with SAD so this winter started taking vitamin D suppliments, fish oil, and exercising and I felt much better. I think drugs are a last resort. I've had my rounds with zoloft and it made me into a sleepy zombie with no zest for life.