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Re: Faithfree, some help, please.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:22 pm

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Faithfree wrote:Putting on sedimentologist's (sedimentary geologist's) hat -

I should be fairly trivial for a specialist to tell the difference between an original limestone block and a block composed of recently reconstituted limestone fragments. A variety of standard techniques like a thin section under a petrological microscope could be applied, and if you wanted to get more sophisticated you could do geochemical and isotopic comparisons between the fragments and matrix. Assuming we know where the limestone was quarried from, a simple visual comparison between the in situ rock and the blocks at the pyramids should give one a good idea.
Ah.... but what if you put the blocks together using sedimentation!
So, got some unconsolidated calcium carbonate sediment and consolidate it into a block up on the pyramid using a natural sedimentation process? Possibly could be done with great difficulty but the resulting material could easily be distinguished from natural limestone, particularly from that in the nearby limestone quarry. Marine limestone cement is different in terms of chemistry, crystal structure and isotopes from cement formed outside of the marine environment. Using 'cement' in the geological sense as the crystallisation process that binds the particles together to form rock.
I should have made my self clearer.... I was meaning create the blocks (probably as large slabs) using sedimentation in a marine environment. :tea:
Allow it to form, dig it up, crush it up, then reform it in sea water. Brill, mate!
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Re: Faithfree, some help, please.

Post by Pappa » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:24 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Pappa wrote:
Faithfree wrote:
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Faithfree wrote:Putting on sedimentologist's (sedimentary geologist's) hat -

I should be fairly trivial for a specialist to tell the difference between an original limestone block and a block composed of recently reconstituted limestone fragments. A variety of standard techniques like a thin section under a petrological microscope could be applied, and if you wanted to get more sophisticated you could do geochemical and isotopic comparisons between the fragments and matrix. Assuming we know where the limestone was quarried from, a simple visual comparison between the in situ rock and the blocks at the pyramids should give one a good idea.
Ah.... but what if you put the blocks together using sedimentation!
So, got some unconsolidated calcium carbonate sediment and consolidate it into a block up on the pyramid using a natural sedimentation process? Possibly could be done with great difficulty but the resulting material could easily be distinguished from natural limestone, particularly from that in the nearby limestone quarry. Marine limestone cement is different in terms of chemistry, crystal structure and isotopes from cement formed outside of the marine environment. Using 'cement' in the geological sense as the crystallisation process that binds the particles together to form rock.
I should have made my self clearer.... I was meaning create the blocks (probably as large slabs) using sedimentation in a marine environment. :tea:
Allow it to form, dig it up, crush it up, then reform it in sea water. Brill, mate!
I was thinking it could be formed over millions of years and then dug up, cut into blocks and moved to the appropriate site.
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Post by Faithfree » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:26 pm

Pappa wrote:
Faithfree wrote:
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Faithfree wrote:Putting on sedimentologist's (sedimentary geologist's) hat -

I should be fairly trivial for a specialist to tell the difference between an original limestone block and a block composed of recently reconstituted limestone fragments. A variety of standard techniques like a thin section under a petrological microscope could be applied, and if you wanted to get more sophisticated you could do geochemical and isotopic comparisons between the fragments and matrix. Assuming we know where the limestone was quarried from, a simple visual comparison between the in situ rock and the blocks at the pyramids should give one a good idea.
Ah.... but what if you put the blocks together using sedimentation!
So, got some unconsolidated calcium carbonate sediment and consolidate it into a block up on the pyramid using a natural sedimentation process? Possibly could be done with great difficulty but the resulting material could easily be distinguished from natural limestone, particularly from that in the nearby limestone quarry. Marine limestone cement is different in terms of chemistry, crystal structure and isotopes from cement formed outside of the marine environment. Using 'cement' in the geological sense as the crystallisation process that binds the particles together to form rock.
I should have made my self clearer.... I was meaning create the blocks (probably as large slabs) using sedimentation in a marine environment. :tea:
Then you still have to cart the heavy blocks up to make the pyramids. I thought this was all about avoiding that. :fp:
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Post by Feck » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:27 pm

THAT'S NOT LIMESTONE !
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Post by Faithfree » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:30 pm

Feck wrote:THAT'S NOT LIMESTONE !
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No that's Abdul - he's being a scale for the limestone blocks.
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Post by Pappa » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:31 pm

Faithfree wrote:Then you still have to cart the heavy blocks up to make the pyramids. I thought this was all about avoiding that. :fp:
Maybe they used tractor beams on their space ships? :dunno:
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Post by Deep Sea Isopod » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:37 pm

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Feck wrote:THAT'S NOT LIMESTONE !
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No that's Abdul - he's being a scale for the limestone blocks.

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Post by Feck » Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:41 pm

So this moron is saying that they quarried Granite cut it into small blocks (not that that is a shit load of work or anything ) then they carried the little blocks up to make the pyramid but used limestone to glue the blocks together ,not all of them,just enough make it looked like they used big blocks of granite ?

Why didn't they glue it all together then? why make fake blocks when they could have made it seamless ? Why quarry Granite at all ? Why is there NO FUCKIN LIMESTONE LEFT ?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:10 pm

Feck wrote:THAT'S NOT LIMESTONE !
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The Great Pyramid consists of an estimated 2.3 million limestone blocks with most believed to have been transported from nearby quarries. The Tura limestone used for the casing was quarried across the river. The largest granite stones in the pyramid, found in the "King's" chamber, weigh 25 to 80 tonnes and were transported from Aswan, more than 500 miles away. Traditionally, ancient Egyptians cut stone blocks by hammering wooden wedges into the stone which were then soaked with water. As the water was absorbed, the wedges expanded, causing the rock to crack. Once they were cut, they were carried by boat either up or down the Nile River to the pyramid.[18] It is estimated that 5.5 million tons of limestone, 8,000 tons of granite (imported from Aswan), and 500,000 tons of mortar were used in the construction of the Great Pyramid.[19]
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Post by Feck » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:20 pm

My point still stands why is it not one solid block of limestone ? If they could seamlessly make small bricks up to look like giant blocks WHY ?
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Post by hackenslash » Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:44 pm

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Feck wrote:THAT'S NOT LIMESTONE !
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No that's Abdul - he's being a scale for the limestone blocks.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Nov 29, 2010 6:23 pm

Feck wrote:My point still stands why is it not one solid block of limestone ? If they could seamlessly make small bricks up to look like giant blocks WHY ?
Meh, I asked them why it wasn't one solid block of stone, from India.
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Post by hadespussercats » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:38 am

Hi Abdul. I think you're doing a great job. Except I don't know how tall you are.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:54 am

hadespussercats wrote:Hi Abdul. I think you're doing a great job. Except I don't know how tall you are.
Well, from here it looks like his legs go all the down to the ground. That's a start.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Nov 30, 2010 2:54 am

Oh, and the Egyptian Vital Statistics state the average height for an adult male is 5'9" (in metric units of course.)
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