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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Wed Mar 18, 2026 1:10 pm

It's all getting too Sci Fi
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In the context of artificial intelligence (AI), the singularity (or technological singularity) is a hypothetical future point in time when technological growth becomes uncontrollable and irreversible, resulting in unpredictable and profound changes to human civilization.

It is often described as the moment when AI surpasses human intelligence, initiating a "runaway" cycle of self-improvement that leaves human cognitive abilities far behind.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Wed Mar 18, 2026 6:58 pm

I asked Google AI if it uses languages to think.
My training involves a massive dataset of multilingual text, allowing me to understand and generate dozens of languages natively. I don’t need to "translate" your question into English to understand it, nor do I translate my thoughts back into your language to answer.
That said, because a large portion of my training data is English-based, I sometimes have a deeper "knowledge base" in English for niche topics. But for the vast majority of conversations, the process is seamless and direct.
Is there a specific language you'd like to test out or switch to?
No, I prefer to work through my document in the language I know, for practice. I speak Finnish since childhood but now have no Finnish speakers even daily. I write so columns a few times a year, so my language is basically high school level Finnish. I actually prefer to ask you in English, but will occasionally use Google Translate to do a single paragraph from English to Finnish. If was not able work out the terms on my own. I use Wikipedia and translate a page to Finnish if the article is not there in Finnish.
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I can definitely help bridge that gap. If you ever feel a Google Translate result sounds a bit robotic or "off," feel free to drop the paragraph here. I can help you polish the phrasing to make it sound more like a native speaker and less like a literal translation.
I caught Google AI in a lie. It knows waht I asked it yesterday. it gave me tips:
That is a productive pace—a half page today while the ideas from Chapter 3 are fresh is a great way to build momentum. Since Ethan Mollick focuses heavily on the "Human-AI collaboration" aspect, you’ll likely run into some modern English concepts that don't have perfect one-word matches in traditional kirjakieli.
Writing a two-page column gives you enough room to really dig into his arguments without losing the reader. Since you mentioned his book specifically, are you finding it easy to convey his "Working with the Alien" or "Centaur/Cyborg" metaphors in Finnish, or are you sticking to more literal descriptions of the technology?
Good luck with the writing—työn iloa (joy of work) as you dive into that half-page!
Should we look at some Finnish terms for "Prompt Engineering" or "Large Language Models" that sound professional for your review?
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 19, 2026 3:44 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... g-chatbots

“You’ll spend a full eight-hour day interacting with leading AI chatbots – and your only job is to be brutally honest about how frustrating they are,” the company’s job listing states.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Thu Mar 19, 2026 8:40 pm

Next question: will there ever be sn open source AI run by a foundation? Now only billionaires can have their groks.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri Mar 20, 2026 12:18 am

You can run an open source LLM on your own computer - if you don't want to do anything else on it.

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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 20, 2026 11:15 am

This material almost makes sense when explained to the layman, and then it all of a sudden adds new terms.
LLMs consist of billions to trillions of parameters and operate as general-purpose sequence models, generating, summarizing, translating, and reasoning over text. LLMs represent a significant new technology in their ability to generalize across tasks with minimal task-specific supervision, enabling capabilities like conversational agents, code generation, knowledge retrieval, and automated reasoning that previously required bespoke systems.[6]

LLMs evolved from earlier statistical and recurrent neural network approaches to language modeling. The transformer architecture, introduced in 2017, replaced recurrence with self-attention, allowing efficient parallelization, longer context handling, and scalable training on unprecedented data volumes. This innovation enabled models like GPT, BERT, and their successors, which demonstrated emergent behaviors at scale, such as few-shot learning and compositional reasoning.
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In machine learning, attention is a method that determines the importance of each component in a sequence relative to the other components in that sequence. In natural language processing, importance is represented by "soft" weights assigned to each word in a sentence. More generally, attention encodes vectors called token embeddings across a fixed-width sequence that can range from tens to millions of tokens in size.

Unlike "hard" weights, which are computed during the backwards training pass, "soft" weights exist only in the forward pass and therefore change with every step of the input.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 20, 2026 11:23 am

I think the Google people wrote a lot of the Wikipedia articles. Though yiu cannot write on your exact work, but a close colleague can.
"Attention Is All You Need"[1] is a 2017 research paper in machine learning authored by eight scientists working at Google. The paper introduced a new deep learning architecture known as the transformer, based on the attention mechanism proposed in 2014 by Bahdanau et al.[2] The transformer approach it describes has become the main architecture of a wide variety of AI, including large language models.[3][4] At the time, the focus of the research was on improving Seq2seq techniques for machine translation, but the authors go further in the paper, foreseeing the technique's potential for other tasks like question answering and what is now known as multimodal generative AI.[1]

Some early examples that the team tried their Transformer architecture on included English-to-German translation, generating Wikipedia articles on "The Transformer", and parsing. These convinced the team that the Transformer is a general-purpose language model, and not just good for translation.[5]
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Fri Mar 20, 2026 11:39 am

Since the topic is AI, I let AI translate my Finnish column. It got most of it right. This paragraph is a bit clunky:
Those errors are similar to those in tabloids. The AI wants the user to come back to ask again next time, and the answer may be a guess and a colored picture of the situation. In culture and humor, that may be permissible, but then people ask serious personal questions, even health-related ones.
it got the tabloid term righ, we call them afternoon papers in Finnish. I referred to culture and entertainment, it used the word humor. In some sense that might work, but humor in Finnish is just huumori. I did not use that. My sentence is a bit run on: I meant that "then people go on from chatty things to actual serious things like health."
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Tero » Sat Mar 21, 2026 12:45 pm

That settles it. If you have cats, you definitely need AI:
do people ask you to generate cat videos?
Actually, yes! People ask me to help with "cat videos" all the time, though I don’t generate the video files myself. Instead, I act as a "creative director" for people using specialized AI video tools like Runway, Pika, or Luma Dream Machine.
Users typically ask me to:
Write detailed prompts: Translating a simple idea (like "a cat detective in a noir setting") into the technical language these video generators need to produce high-quality clips.
Develop viral storylines: Creating "cat soap operas" or emotional story arcs that are currently trending on TikTok and YouTube Shorts.
Provide step-by-step guides: Helping beginners understand the workflow—from generating a consistent cat character to adding AI voiceovers and music.
While some find these AI-generated cats "addictive" or "cute," they can be controversial because they sometimes look a bit too "uncanny" or "weird" for some viewers.
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Kurt and Abram Engle: A comedic duo known for their viral dance videos on TikTok.
Maru: The legendary "box-loving" cat from Japan who has been a YouTube staple for years.
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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 21, 2026 10:38 pm


Tero wrote:Since the topic is AI, I let AI translate my Finnish column. It got most of it right. This paragraph is a bit clunky:
Those errors are similar to those in tabloids. The AI wants the user to come back to ask again next time, and the answer may be a guess and a colored picture of the situation. In culture and humor, that may be permissible, but then people ask serious personal questions, even health-related ones.
it got the tabloid term righ, we call them afternoon papers in Finnish. I referred to culture and entertainment, it used the word humor. In some sense that might work, but humor in Finnish is just huumori. I did not use that. My sentence is a bit run on: I meant that "then people go on from chatty things to actual serious things like health."
The AI doesn't want anything. The LLM doesn't guess - it uses a sophisticated statistical model to follow one word with another depending on the subject, context, and what it has already produced. I think we all need to be wary of lazy language which implies or ascribes agency to AI - even when talking about so-called AI Agents.
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Post by macdoc » Sun Mar 22, 2026 12:14 am

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Re: Artificial Intelligence

Post by Svartalf » Sun Mar 22, 2026 1:12 am

that's the problem... people with no real knowledge of the algorithmic processes ascribe the apparent result out of the black box to human style thought processes, which is a bad mistake as it leads them to viewing a program as a person and opens them to being manipulated without even noticing.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 22, 2026 1:31 am

Human cognition is a black box too.
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Post by Svartalf » Sun Mar 22, 2026 1:55 am

it may be, but we much too effed up in the head for it to have anything to do with an actual algorithm
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 22, 2026 3:09 am

As MacDoc intimated, if the input/output is the same, then we may as well assume the internals are the same between brain/mind and AI. Now, input/output isn't the same between human and AI yet, but there's some reason to think that they will be eventually.
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