Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became upright.

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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:53 am

The problem with agriculture was that they got stuck on simple diets. Many times it lead to health problems. The ones that could both hunt and farm did best. So agriculture alone was not the downfall, but when you had surplus, you had time to develop all kinds of technology and also to have a growing population.

Now, how many of us can hunt, gather or farm?

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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Trolldor » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:55 am

Tero wrote:The problem with agriculture was that they got stuck on simple diets. Many times it lead to health problems. The ones that could both hunt and farm did best. So agriculture alone was not the downfall, but when you had surplus, you had time to develop all kinds of technology and also to have a growing population.

Now, how many of us can hunt, gather or farm?


Yep.
Agriculture facilitated education etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:58 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:
Tero wrote:The problem with agriculture was that they got stuck on simple diets. Many times it lead to health problems. The ones that could both hunt and farm did best. So agriculture alone was not the downfall, but when you had surplus, you had time to develop all kinds of technology and also to have a growing population.

Now, how many of us can hunt, gather or farm?


Yep.
Agriculture facilitated education etc. etc. etc.
Being stationary allowed them to accumulate stuff. So that nomads could come along and take their stuff.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Trolldor » Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:59 am

Until the nomads had too much stuff so they had to stop moving.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:06 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:Until the nomads had too much stuff so they had to stop moving.
Yeah, greed slows you down.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Tero » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:36 am

I think I would like to do some of the hunting and gathering. Anxiety would be useful (adreanalin) and even ADD people would be normal, other than the odd spear thrown at the shy kid brother. This modern stuff is just weird.

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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Clinton Huxley » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:00 am

Without agriculture there would be no Rationalia. We'd all be too busy hunting wild bacons to have time to log on...
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Re: What is the most badass technology developed by humans?

Post by Ronja » Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:26 am

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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by GenesForLife » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:20 am

That is a really camp way of doing a facepalm...

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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by Ilovelucy » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:25 am

So, Mr mac, have you finished reading those Ardipithecus ramidus papers yet, or is it more important to return here and call other members chickens for not wanting to respond to you any more? Have you at least stopped arguing as if you think that humans evolved from chimpanzees? That would be nice.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by mistermack » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:14 pm

Tero wrote:I think I would like to do some of the hunting and gathering. Anxiety would be useful (adreanalin) and even ADD people would be normal, other than the odd spear thrown at the shy kid brother. This modern stuff is just weird.
You obviously don't do your own shopping. Just go down to tescos, and try to find sesame seeds. You'll learn a lot about hunting and gathering, and self defence. An old lady with a trolly can do you serious damage, if you don't watch your back.
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Re: Mystery solved. How and why human ancestors became uprig

Post by cowiz » Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:17 pm

Bump

Oh you already did!

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