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Re: Why Global Warming does not bother me.

Post by redunderthebed » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:39 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I'd be concerned about the construction of a wall that will hold back thousands of miles of lateral water pressure. Pretty damn impressive considering continents sometimes fail to achieve this.
Lateral water pressure :ask: Doesn't sound like physics to me. Storms and waves?

Better ask the Dutch about pros and cons with having land below sea level
Or New Orleans.
Or as mentioned Bangladesh islands where hundreds people did live disappear everyear.
Here's a novel idea: Don't live within 50 vertical feet of the current sea level.

We haven't even addressed the pacific islands where 100's thousands people live and wont have anywhere to live. Australia and NZ are seriously discussing what the fuck to do when this happens the term climate refugee is entering our vocabulary as one of the issues of the 21st century in the next 50 years i promise.
They'll all be dead in a hundred years, so no big huhu. Just tell 'em they have to move when the tide rises. Or let 'em drown if that's their choice.
In bangladesh they are too fucking poor to move generally or in your dystopian vision of the world should they die because they are poor?.

Um yes it will be a big fucking deal it will be a humanitarian disaster.Us along side the government of the now non-existant country will have to fund them moving on mass figure out in the short term where to put them and make sure who they are they arent carry diseases or busted out of the can back home and other normal checks and like i said on mass.We'll have to help them integrate find them places to go to school live etc and probably for the short term feed and house them in makeshift camps if the shit really hits the fan.
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Post by laklak » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:41 pm

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Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:41 am

We haven't even addressed the pacific islands where 100's thousands people live and wont have anywhere to live. Australia and NZ are seriously discussing what the fuck to do when this happens the term climate refugee is entering our vocabulary as one of the issues of the 21st century in the next 50 years i promise.
Of course it wouldn't be practical to build a wall around the US, but it WOULD be practical around a small island with no rivers.
Whether it would be worth it is a different matter.
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Post by MiM » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:08 pm

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We haven't even addressed the pacific islands where 100's thousands people live and wont have anywhere to live. Australia and NZ are seriously discussing what the fuck to do when this happens the term climate refugee is entering our vocabulary as one of the issues of the 21st century in the next 50 years i promise.
Of course it wouldn't be practical to build a wall around the US, but it WOULD be practical around a small island with no rivers.
Whether it would be worth it is a different matter.
And any rain would drain to... :ask:
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Post by Tyrannical » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:20 pm

redunderthebed wrote:In bangladesh they are too fucking poor to move generally or in your dystopian vision of the world should they die because they are poor?.
Poor isn't an excuse, dumb or lazy is :blah:
They can start by building sea walls, they have invented the shovel haven't they? No matter, plenty of information is freely available on construction and even building construction equipment. All it takes is learning and labor. They should at least be able to make domestically through freely available learning the same level of technology the US had when Hoover Dam was built.
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Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:54 pm

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redunderthebed wrote:In bangladesh they are too fucking poor to move generally or in your dystopian vision of the world should they die because they are poor?.
Poor isn't an excuse, dumb or lazy is :blah:
They can start by building sea walls, they have invented the shovel haven't they? No matter, plenty of information is freely available on construction and even building construction equipment. All it takes is learning and labor. They should at least be able to make domestically through freely available learning the same level of technology the US had when Hoover Dam was built.
How dumb is that post? Amazing!!
Build a sea wall, and it would just fill up with fresh water from the inside.
Unless you pump it up and over the wall. It's not rocket science. Just the bleedin obvious.
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Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:59 pm

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We haven't even addressed the pacific islands where 100's thousands people live and wont have anywhere to live. Australia and NZ are seriously discussing what the fuck to do when this happens the term climate refugee is entering our vocabulary as one of the issues of the 21st century in the next 50 years i promise.
Of course it wouldn't be practical to build a wall around the US, but it WOULD be practical around a small island with no rivers.
Whether it would be worth it is a different matter.
And any rain would drain to... :ask:
Most of these small Islands have a shortage of fresh water, so I would imagine they would save it.
They would have to pump the waste water into the ocean though, at low tide.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:16 pm

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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I'd be concerned about the construction of a wall that will hold back thousands of miles of lateral water pressure. Pretty damn impressive considering continents sometimes fail to achieve this.
Lateral water pressure :ask: Doesn't sound like physics to me. Storms and waves?

Better ask the Dutch about pros and cons with having land below sea level
MiM, water exerts pressure in all directions except "up", that the definition of a liquid, "a fluid that takes the shape of it's container but doesn't completely fill it." This is the reason levies have to be so strong.
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Post by Clinton Huxley » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:29 pm

And When The Levee Breaks.....
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Post by MiM » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:45 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:
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Gawdzilla Sama wrote:I'd be concerned about the construction of a wall that will hold back thousands of miles of lateral water pressure. Pretty damn impressive considering continents sometimes fail to achieve this.
Lateral water pressure :ask: Doesn't sound like physics to me. Storms and waves?

Better ask the Dutch about pros and cons with having land below sea level
MiM, water exerts pressure in all directions except "up", that the definition of a liquid, "a fluid that takes the shape of it's container but doesn't completely fill it." This is the reason levies have to be so strong.
Yes, but as someone already explained here, the pressure only depends on the depth, not at all on those thousands of miles. If you keep 6 feet of water hose vertical and filled with water, the pressure at the bottom of that hose will be exactly the same as the pressure of the ocean against a levy, at 6 feet depth.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:53 pm

Lateral pressure isn't the same as hydraulic pressure, or at least that's what the Army Corps of Engineers told me. The levies around here average one hundred feet thick at the bases.
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Post by MiM » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:53 pm

Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Lateral pressure isn't the same as hydraulic pressure, or at least that's what the Army Corps of Engineers told me. The levies around here average one hundred feet thick at the bases.
And what I am trying to tell is that there aint no thing like "lateral pressure" that would exist apart from hydraulic pressure. The levies have to be strong to stand wave pressure, tides, erosion and stuff, but that's different.
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Post by klr » Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:58 pm

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Post by mistermack » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:26 pm

MiM wrote:
Gawdzilla Sama wrote:Lateral pressure isn't the same as hydraulic pressure, or at least that's what the Army Corps of Engineers told me. The levies around here average one hundred feet thick at the bases.
And what I am trying to tell is that there aint no thing like "lateral pressure" that would exist apart from hydraulic pressure. The levies have to be strong to stand wave pressure, tides, erosion and stuff, but that's different.
That's right. Pressure is just pressure. Force divided by area. As simple as that.
The thickness of levies is dictated by the quality of materials used, the depth, and the wave and current forces.
Usually it's cheap materials used, so they make it thick.
With dams damming rivers, they don't anticipate much significant wave action, or tidal flows, so they basically just have to withstand the pressure. Also, they like to store as much water as possible, and a thinner dam means more storage.
But they do use thick earth-filled dams in places.
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Post by Seth » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:22 pm

redunderthebed wrote:
Seth wrote: Here's a novel idea: Don't live within 50 vertical feet of the current sea level.

In bangladesh they are too fucking poor to move generally or in your dystopian vision of the world should they die because they are poor?.

Um yes it will be a big fucking deal it will be a humanitarian disaster.Us along side the government of the now non-existant country will have to fund them moving on mass figure out in the short term where to put them and make sure who they are they arent carry diseases or busted out of the can back home and other normal checks and like i said on mass.We'll have to help them integrate find them places to go to school live etc and probably for the short term feed and house them in makeshift camps if the shit really hits the fan.
They've got a hundred years to move, and they have feet, now don't they? I'm sure the problem will solve itself when the waters start to rise.

And what you mean "we" paleface? I don't have to pay a dime to relocate Bangladeshis who are too fucking stupid to move out of the floodplain, nor will I.

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