Roundup

[macdoc]

Hanoi Jane switches sides to the repuglies then back to the progressives
https://time.com/5116479/jane-fonda-han ... -nickname/
same cancer I had and still here 20 years on ....quite treatable tho was only just so when I had chemo....prior to that survival rates in the 30% range.
Now it is curable.

[rainbow]

Farmers exposed to 1000x the levels of glyphosate compared to Jane Doe seem to be against the ban.

Innit?

[Svartalf]

They have a right to prefer an early death from cancer or poisoning to having to toil till and advanced age, or to retire on a pension that would hardly feed a mouse, let alone a grown human

[rainbow]

They have a right to prefer an early death from cancer or poisoning to having to toil till and advanced age, or to retire on a pension that would hardly feed a mouse, let alone a grown human

It seems as if there is no clear link to cancer deaths from farmers using glyphosate. If it were so bad, the data would be clear. Non?

[Svartalf]

Given the record of big industry working very hard to hide or muddle such data, I'd rather sin by excess of prudence than take risks for the population at large

[rainbow]

Among 54 251 applicators, 44 932 (82.8%) used glyphosate, including 5779 incident cancer cases (79.3% of all cases). In unlagged analyses, glyphosate was not statistically significantly associated with cancer at any site. However, among applicators in the highest exposure quartile, there was an increased risk of acute myeloid leukemia (AML) compared with never users (RR = 2.44, 95% CI = 0.94 to 6.32, Ptrend = .11), though this association was not statistically significant. Results for AML were similar with a five-year (RRQuartile 4 = 2.32, 95% CI = 0.98 to 5.51, Ptrend = .07) and 20-year exposure lag (RRTertile 3 = 2.04, 95% CI = 1.05 to 3.97, Ptrend = .04).
Conclusions

In this large, prospective cohort study, no association was apparent between glyphosate and any solid tumors or lymphoid malignancies overall, including NHL and its subtypes. There was some evidence of increased risk of AML among the highest exposed group that requires confirmation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6279255/

[Svartalf]

oh, frag, I'd have roundup banned just because I hate monsanto, and want BASF to deeply regret that purchase

[rainbow]

oh, frag, I'd have roundup banned just because I hate monsanto, and want BASF to deeply regret that purchase

It was Bayer. The company that brought us Aspirin, Heroin and Zyklon B.

What do you have against them?

[Svartalf]

involvement in chemical warfare against mankind

[Tero]

It's OK to kill a few farmers because we have to eat.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... egislation

[Svartalf]

It is okay to ban a product that is more dangerous to the user than to the psets is supposed to control

[rainbow]

It's OK to kill a few farmers because we have to eat.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... egislation

Meh. There is no provable link between the use of glyphosate and cancer.

...just because a jury of non-scientists and their money grabbing lawyers say so, doesn't make it true.