Man made tsunamis. Conspiracy miths or truth?

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Man made tsunamis. Conspiracy miths or truth?

Post by kiki5711 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:23 pm

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:25 pm

Um, which tsunamis would we be talking about? There are no recent "mystery" tsunamis that I know of.
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Post by mistermack » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:38 pm

You've got the title wrong. It should read man-made earthquakes.
As the tsunami is a result of the huge earthquake that set it going.

Men do make small earthquakes. But millions of times less powerful than that one.
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Post by kiki5711 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:45 pm

Well, I was thinking of all the atomic bombs that are experimented with in the oceans. They must cause some kind of disturbance down deep and eventually speed up some kind of cracking process therefore creating tsunamis.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:49 pm

kiki5711 wrote:Well, I was thinking of all the atomic bombs that are experimented with in the oceans. They must cause some kind of disturbance down deep and eventually speed up some kind of cracking process therefore creating tsunamis.
Speculative. There were studies done in the early atomic years to see if a nuke could do just that, and the results were disappointing. They never got to a test stage, but the numbers just weren't there. The energy released in a 7.0 quake is orders of magnitude above any nuke we've every built. And there's the problem of where to put it. The surface faults like the San Andreas run for many, many miles and we don't even know if the bomb should be on the fault or somewhere else.
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Post by mistermack » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:56 pm

kiki5711 wrote:Well, I was thinking of all the atomic bombs that are experimented with in the oceans. They must cause some kind of disturbance down deep and eventually speed up some kind of cracking process therefore creating tsunamis.
The energy of an atomic bomb, or an H bomb, is minute compared to a big earthquake.
The best you could do is set one off that was due to go at any minute anyway.

That wouldn't make it man-made. Just man-triggered.
And you would need to know a lot more about earthquakes than we currently do, to know exactly when and where to set off your triggering bomb.

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Post by kiki5711 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:59 pm

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kiki5711 wrote:Well, I was thinking of all the atomic bombs that are experimented with in the oceans. They must cause some kind of disturbance down deep and eventually speed up some kind of cracking process therefore creating tsunamis.
Speculative. There were studies done in the early atomic years to see if a nuke could do just that, and the results were disappointing. They never got to a test stage, but the numbers just weren't there. The energy released in a 7.0 quake is orders of magnitude above any nuke we've every built. And there's the problem of where to put it. The surface faults like the San Andreas run for many, many miles and we don't even know if the bomb should be on the fault or somewhere else.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:04 pm

I don't really have that much time to watch a Youtube while hoping to catch the point you want to make. Sorry.
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Post by mistermack » Fri Jun 10, 2011 10:28 pm

What a lot of people don't realise is that the common scales that are used to classify earthquakes are logarithmic, not linear.
An earthquake measuring three releases over thirty times the energy of a 2, and a four releases a thousand times more.
A five releases more than thirty thousand times the energy of a 2. And so on.
A six is a million times more than a 2.

When you get to the really big earthquakes, the scales actually break down, and cannot adequately describe the energy released. An atomic bomb is like a gnat's fart, in comparison.
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Post by kiki5711 » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:42 am

Gawdzilla wrote:I don't really have that much time to watch a Youtube while hoping to catch the point you want to make. Sorry.
I really don't have a point to make. It was just something I was thinking about. I have no clue about any of this, just very interesting to me.

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Post by JimC » Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:50 am

kiki5711 wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:I don't really have that much time to watch a Youtube while hoping to catch the point you want to make. Sorry.
I really don't have a point to make. It was just something I was thinking about. I have no clue about any of this, just very interesting to me.
From a physics perspective, and from everything I have read on the issue, the answers you have received are spot on...
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