Maori: Indigenous or Contempory Settlers?

Post by **Atheist-Lite** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:02 am

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/artic ... d=10696945

Research showing Maori may have reached New Zealand later than previously believed may have implications for the Waitangi Tribunal, a New Zealand historian says.

In the study "High-precision radiocarbon dating shows recent and rapid initial human colonization of East Polynesia", published yesterday in the American journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences and led by Janet Wilmshurst from New Zealand's Landcare Research, more than 1400 radiocarbon dates were analysed from 47 Pacific islands. The results indicate New Zealand was first colonised by humans between 1210 and 1385 AD.

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Post by **Pappa** » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:12 am

Indigenous is a very subjective word. Where the line is drawn always seems completely arbitrary and based on cultural biases/stereotypes.

Post by **charlou** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:35 am

Indegens ... and cultural prerogative ... are divisive concepts ... we're all human, period.

Post by **epepke** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:09 am

If they're brown and kill people, they're better than YOU!

Post by **nellikin** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:33 am

OMG - you are psychihc! I actually was discussing this with someone at uni today! And just think of what they did to all the birds!

Post by **charlou** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 5:59 am

Post by **Seth** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:23 am

Every person born to the land is "indigenous." Thus, the Mayflower settlers were immigrants, but their children were indigenous, as is every generation that has followed them in every land across the planet.

Post by **charlou** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:27 am

It's just soil, ffs, the boundaries are invented.

Post by **Atheist-Lite** » Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:03 am

charlou wrote:It's just soil, ffs, the boundaries are invented.

Except in the case of islands. With a island there is a boundary and it is real with real effects on species that grow smaller to fit in with time.

Post by **Horwood Beer-Master** » Thu Mar 10, 2011 4:01 pm

Crumple wrote:...The results indicate New Zealand was first colonised by humans between 1210 and 1385 AD...

I thought that's around what was thought anyway, more-or-less

Post by **Svartalf** » Mon Mar 14, 2011 6:34 pm

charlou wrote:Indegens ... and cultural prerogative ... are divisive concepts ... we're all human, period.

Go be a human in Saudi Arabia and tell us how you liked the experience.

Post by **charlou** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 3:44 am

Svartalf wrote:
charlou wrote:Indegens ... and cultural prerogative ... are divisive concepts ... we're all human, period.
Go be a human in Saudi Arabia and tell us how you liked the experience.

Rich oil king, camel herding nomad ... or female?

Post by **Svartalf** » Tue Mar 15, 2011 9:31 am

Well, yourself, since that was a complete ad hom addressed specifically at you

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