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Dolphin With Legs?

Post by Animavore » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:04 pm

Back in November 2007 there was an article all over papers about a dolphin found with what may be hind legs protruding.
I was going to use this as evidence for evolution with my creationist house mate when I decided, prudently, to check my facts first.
When I Googled it the top searches are all creationsit opinions on this mostly copied and pasted from and article in AIG claiming it was only hind fins and that papers were parading this as proof of evolution before they done any x-rays or anything (which, in fairness, they did).
Does anyone know what happened with this as I can't find any articles about the proposed x-rays and further tests?
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Re: Dolphin With Legs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:07 pm

Animavore wrote:Back in November 2007 there was an article all over papers about a dolphin found with what may be hind legs protruding.
I was going to use this as evidence for evolution with my creationist house mate when I decided, prudently, to check my facts first.
When I Googled it the top searches are all creationsit opinions on this mostly copied and pasted from and article in AIG claiming it was only hind fins and that papers were parading this as proof of evolution before they done any x-rays or anything (which, in fairness, they did).
Does anyone know what happened with this as I can't find any articles about the proposed x-rays and further tests?
I have a reference around here regarding dolphins occasionally being born with atavistic legs. I'll dig.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:40 pm

:think:
I don't see what difference it makes to the argument. Don't dolphins have vestigial rear limbs like other cetaceans anyway?

Edit:-

Just found this wiki reference to your 'belegged' dolphin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin#Anatomy
Modern dolphin skeletons have two small, rod-shaped pelvic bones thought to be vestigial hind limbs. In October 2006 an unusual Bottlenose Dolphin was captured in Japan; it had small fins on each side of its genital slit which scientists believe to be a more pronounced development of these vestigial hind limbs.[8]
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:41 pm

Major Eyeswater wrote::think:
I don't see what difference it makes to the argument. Don't dolphins have vestigial rear limbs like other cetaceans anyway?
I think only the larger ones have them, the smaller ones have absorbed them long ago.
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Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:51 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Major Eyeswater wrote::think:
I don't see what difference it makes to the argument. Don't dolphins have vestigial rear limbs like other cetaceans anyway?
I think only the larger ones have them, the smaller ones have absorbed them long ago.

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Re: Dolphin With Legs?

Post by JacksSmirkingRevenge » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:22 pm

Hmmmm.........
Animavore wrote:Back in November 2007 there was an article all over papers about a dolphin found with what may be hind legs protruding.
I was going to use this as evidence for evolution with my creationist house mate when I decided, prudently, to check my facts first.
When I Googled it the top searches are all creationsit opinions on this mostly copied and pasted from and article in AIG claiming it was only hind fins and that papers were parading this as proof of evolution before they done any x-rays or anything (which, in fairness, they did).
Does anyone know what happened with this as I can't find any articles about the proposed x-rays and further tests?
Actually, thinking about this:
The creationists are shooting their own argument out of the air here because the development of fins from vestigial legs would actually constitute an evolutionary step forwards for an animal that was evolving from land-living back to sea-going - would it not? :eddy:
Just a thought.....
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Re: Dolphin With Legs?

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Jul 20, 2009 11:43 pm

Major Eyeswater wrote:Hmmmm.........
Animavore wrote:Back in November 2007 there was an article all over papers about a dolphin found with what may be hind legs protruding.
I was going to use this as evidence for evolution with my creationist house mate when I decided, prudently, to check my facts first.
When I Googled it the top searches are all creationsit opinions on this mostly copied and pasted from and article in AIG claiming it was only hind fins and that papers were parading this as proof of evolution before they done any x-rays or anything (which, in fairness, they did).
Does anyone know what happened with this as I can't find any articles about the proposed x-rays and further tests?
Actually, thinking about this:
The creationists are shooting their own argument out of the air here because the development of fins from vestigial legs would actually constitute an evolutionary step forwards for an animal that was evolving from land-living back to sea-going - would it not? :eddy:
Just a thought.....
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