continued here, with pics: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20578627How tall can a Lego tower get?
By Ruth Alexander
BBC News
It's not just children who like to build towers with Lego - the internet is alive with discussion on how many Lego bricks, stacked one on top of the other, it would take to destroy the bottom brick. So what's the answer?
There has been a burning debate on the social news website Reddit.
It's a trivial question you might think, but one the Open University's engineering department has - at the request of the BBC's More or Less programme - fired up its labs to try to answer.
"It's an exciting thing to do because it's an entirely new question and new questions are always interesting," says Dr Ian Johnston, an applied mathematician and lecturer in engineering.
Looking on the internet, he expected to find the answer, but was surprised to find only a lot of speculation.
Perhaps that's because not everyone who has pondered the question has ready access to a hydraulic testing machine.
The 2x2 Lego brick looks vulnerable, placed on top of a metal plate, which a hydraulic ram is pushing upwards. On top of the brick is a second plate, with a load cell on top of it, measuring the force being exerted.
Safety glasses on, the engineers begin to nervously edge towards the door.
"We're setting it up automatically, so that we can all back out of the room, so none of us is in range when the thing goes bang," Johnston explains - positioned, I notice, slightly behind me.
And the load on top of the brick gets larger and larger. We reach 3,500 newtons (N) of force - the equivalent of having 350kg (770lbs) sitting on top of the brick - more than a third of a tonne.
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The force climbs on, above 4,000N. And then...
Nothing.
Well, not much. There is no big bang. The brick just kind of melts.
It looks like a small square of warm camembert.
This, Ian Johnston explains - noting that the computer also shows the load is no longer increasing - is a "material failure".
"The material is just flowing out of the way now and it's not able to take any more. We're getting a plastic failure. It means the brick keeps on deforming, without the load increasing. Metals can be plastic, and this plastic is being plastic," he says.
So - how many Lego bricks, stacked one on top of the other, would it take to destroy the bottom brick?
Ian Johnston and the team do two more tests to be sure we hadn't just happened upon the strongest Lego brick in existence. And in fact they were impressed at the consistency of Lego manufacture.
The average maximum force the bricks can stand is 4,240N. That's equivalent to a mass of 432kg (950lbs). If you divide that by the mass of a single brick, which is 1.152g, then you get the grand total of bricks a single piece of Lego could support: 375,000.
So, 375,000 bricks towering 3.5km (2.17 miles) high is what it would take to break a Lego brick.
"That's taller than the highest mountain in Spain. It's significantly higher than Mount Olympus [tallest mountain in Greece], and it's the typical height at which people ski in the Alps," Ian Johnston says (though many skiers also ski at lower altitudes).
"So if the Greek gods wanted to build a new temple on Mount Olympus, and Mount Olympus wasn't available, they could just - but no more - do it with Lego bricks. As long as they don't jump up and down too much.
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How tall can a Lego tower get?
Very tall, it would seem:
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Re: How tall can a Lego tower get?
Yes. That is all very well, but could you please convert that into a metaphorical measure we can all grasp - such as the equivalent in elephants, double-decker buses, or how many times it would go to the moon and back?
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It was boring. I wanted to actually see it. However tall it was.
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What would be a limiting factor, of course, long before that height, is stability, particularly since tiny imperfections would lead to deviations from the vertical...
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But deviations from the vertical are some of my favourite deviants!JimC wrote:What would be a limiting factor, of course, long before that height, is stability, particularly since tiny imperfections would lead to deviations from the vertical...
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I can attest to the fact that even a stack of the larger Duplo bricks reaches such a stability limitation around the point it touches the ceiling.JimC wrote:What would be a limiting factor, of course, long before that height, is stability, particularly since tiny imperfections would lead to deviations from the vertical...

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A tower is too unstable, but a pyramid might just work.
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Re: How tall can a Lego tower get?
A tower would be fine, if some gnarly architecture was deployed...like flying buttresses and whatnot...Tyrannical wrote:A tower is too unstable, but a pyramid might just work.
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Gargoyles to go ...Cormac wrote:A tower would be fine, if some gnarly architecture was deployed...like flying buttresses and whatnot...Tyrannical wrote:A tower is too unstable, but a pyramid might just work.

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klr wrote:Gargoyles to go ...Cormac wrote:A tower would be fine, if some gnarly architecture was deployed...like flying buttresses and whatnot...Tyrannical wrote:A tower is too unstable, but a pyramid might just work.
...see? The hard part is already done. The rest should be easy.
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Just scale this up:


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Re: How tall can a Lego tower get?
...all the way up to heaven. We can get the common people to pay for it by getting them to purchase time off purgatory for good behaviour.klr wrote:Just scale this up:
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