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Post by mistermack » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:09 pm

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mistermack wrote:If the Earth was expanding at the rate that they claim, there is NO WAY that we would have oceans, or an atmosphere now. The pull of gravity years ago would have been much too small to keep gases from floating off into space. And I'm pretty sure that that would include water vapour.

So unless there was some way that the Earth has been losing density to expand, then it's impossible.
The core would have to be something pretty odd for that to happen.
Eh? The tinfoil hat crowd's idea is that the earth has been gaining mass, causing it to expand, thus increasing gravity, which would trap the atmosphere even more strongly, as well as making it harder for me to crawl out of bed in the a.m., which seems to fit, now that I think of it. :thinks:
Yeh but, yeh but, if gravity has been increasing at that sort of rate, then it must have been much LESS years ago.
So all of the oceans and atmosphere would have disappeared long ago.
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Post by Tero » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:27 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:How come I find seashells in Missouri? The nearest ocean is more than a mile away. (Considerably more.)
Not only that, we hace seagulls too! I call them land(fill)gulls.

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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by FBM » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:33 pm

mistermack wrote:
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mistermack wrote:If the Earth was expanding at the rate that they claim, there is NO WAY that we would have oceans, or an atmosphere now. The pull of gravity years ago would have been much too small to keep gases from floating off into space. And I'm pretty sure that that would include water vapour.

So unless there was some way that the Earth has been losing density to expand, then it's impossible.
The core would have to be something pretty odd for that to happen.
Eh? The tinfoil hat crowd's idea is that the earth has been gaining mass, causing it to expand, thus increasing gravity, which would trap the atmosphere even more strongly, as well as making it harder for me to crawl out of bed in the a.m., which seems to fit, now that I think of it. :thinks:
Yeh but, yeh but, if gravity has been increasing at that sort of rate, then it must have been much LESS years ago.
So all of the oceans and atmosphere would have disappeared long ago.
No, no, no. You see, you're discounting the recycling of the pair produced fundamental particles by their being somehow tunneled back to the Earth's core. That keeps the atmosphere local, right? No time for it to go buzzing off into outer space. It's busy creating mass out of nothing right here at home. :prof:
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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:36 pm

Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:How come I find seashells in Missouri? The nearest ocean is more than a mile away. (Considerably more.)
Not only that, we hace seagulls too! I call them land(fill)gulls.
We have seagulls in Paris too... always wondered if they come straight from the Normandy coast (a somewhat long trip), or from the Seine estuary along the river (an even longer one)
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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:43 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Tero wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:How come I find seashells in Missouri? The nearest ocean is more than a mile away. (Considerably more.)
Not only that, we hace seagulls too! I call them land(fill)gulls.
We have seagulls in Paris too... always wondered if they come straight from the Normandy coast (a somewhat long trip), or from the Seine estuary along the river (an even longer one)
They made it over the Rockies to Utah. Assuming they were gone for time after the inland sea dried up, that is.
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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by mistermack » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:44 pm

FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:
FBM wrote:
mistermack wrote:If the Earth was expanding at the rate that they claim, there is NO WAY that we would have oceans, or an atmosphere now. The pull of gravity years ago would have been much too small to keep gases from floating off into space. And I'm pretty sure that that would include water vapour.

So unless there was some way that the Earth has been losing density to expand, then it's impossible.
The core would have to be something pretty odd for that to happen.
Eh? The tinfoil hat crowd's idea is that the earth has been gaining mass, causing it to expand, thus increasing gravity, which would trap the atmosphere even more strongly, as well as making it harder for me to crawl out of bed in the a.m., which seems to fit, now that I think of it. :thinks:
Yeh but, yeh but, if gravity has been increasing at that sort of rate, then it must have been much LESS years ago.
So all of the oceans and atmosphere would have disappeared long ago.
No, no, no. You see, you're discounting the recycling of the pair produced fundamental particles by their being somehow tunneled back to the Earth's core. That keeps the atmosphere local, right? No time for it to go buzzing off into outer space. It's busy creating mass out of nothing right here at home. :prof:
You know what, that makes a lot of sense.
And the final proof has to be dinosaurs, which could not possibly have been able to stand up, with all that weight, if gravity hadn't been loads lower. And terry dactyls could never have flown in today's gravity.
It absolutely all dovetails.
It's probably crystals causing it, in the center of the Earth. Pyramid shaped crystals.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jun 02, 2012 3:50 pm

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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by FBM » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:01 am

Hahahaha!!! Busted!!! Stoopid scientists!!!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 120606.htm

Plate Tectonics Cannot Explain Dynamics of Earth and Crust Formation More Than Three Billion Years Ago
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FBM wrote:Hahahaha!!! Busted!!! Stoopid scientists!!!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 120606.htm

Plate Tectonics Cannot Explain Dynamics of Earth and Crust Formation More Than Three Billion Years Ago
Possibly not. :hehe:

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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by mistermack » Sun Jun 03, 2012 1:09 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:
FBM wrote:Hahahaha!!! Busted!!! Stoopid scientists!!!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 120606.htm

Plate Tectonics Cannot Explain Dynamics of Earth and Crust Formation More Than Three Billion Years Ago
Possibly not. :hehe:
Did anybody say that it could? :ask:
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Re: Ask a geologist thread

Post by Thinking Aloud » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:48 pm

mistermack wrote:
Thinking Aloud wrote:
FBM wrote:Hahahaha!!! Busted!!! Stoopid scientists!!!

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 120606.htm

Plate Tectonics Cannot Explain Dynamics of Earth and Crust Formation More Than Three Billion Years Ago
Possibly not. :hehe:
Did anybody say that it could? :ask:
In the same way that evolution can explain the formation of the universe, plate tectonics has been operating since before the sun condensed.

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