What do you think is evolution's most important achievement?

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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Rum » Wed May 16, 2012 10:53 pm

Yep, knowledge of personal mortality sure puts a damper on things.

I blame Darwin.

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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Brian Peacock » Thu May 17, 2012 12:20 am

mistermack wrote:I don't think it's vanity to say that humans are the most important achievement.
No more or less than an amoebae swimming up a food gradient.
mistermack wrote:That's not to say best achievement. But there can't be any doubt that we are the most important.
Only to us - Mother Nature doesn't really give a shit.
mistermack wrote:Because we are causing extinctions at an incredible rate. So we are destroying all the other achievements of evolution.
And when we've extinctified ourselves, the planet will continue on its merry way through the firmament abundantly fecund and blooming.
mistermack wrote:But the other reason is that we are capable of changing the environment to suit us.
So does the Beaver.
mistermack wrote:And we are also capable of leaving the planet, and seeding life onto other worlds.
Oh shit! The horror. The horror.
mistermack wrote:No other organism comes close to us in importance. For good or bad, is a different topic.
Self-aggrandisement is one of our most un-attractive traits.
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Post by Woodbutcher » Thu May 17, 2012 1:28 am

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Post by mistermack » Fri May 18, 2012 12:17 pm

Brian Peacock wrote: And when we've extinctified ourselves, the planet will continue on its merry way through the firmament abundantly fecund and blooming.
Yeh, but I'm replying to the proposition of the OP.
If you think that it's a rubbish proposition that's fair enough. But it's an odd way to say it, just to criticise posts that take the OP at face value.
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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by MiM » Fri May 18, 2012 12:39 pm

Rum wrote:I was thinking earlier about death and the massive instinct all living things have to survive. The instinct to survive struck me as possibly the single most important evolutionary development once you get to a semi complex level of life.

Just speculation mind you.What do you think?
The instinct to survive (at least until you can replicate) is closer to a precondition to evolution than an achievement of it, imho.

The oddest, most wondrous (we know of), I agree is the human mind, with it's ability to ponder itself.

When it comes to impact on the evolutionary process, I believe it is pretty straightforward that the eukaryote cell, followed by sex (as opposed to division or cloning) are the most important.
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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Brian Peacock » Fri May 18, 2012 2:20 pm

mistermack wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote: And when we've extinctified ourselves, the planet will continue on its merry way through the firmament abundantly fecund and blooming.
Yeh, but I'm replying to the proposition of the OP.
If you think that it's a rubbish proposition that's fair enough. But it's an odd way to say it, just to criticise posts that take the OP at face value.
Just stating my views in relation to your own. Let's say you just inspired me. :D
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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by mistermack » Fri May 18, 2012 4:41 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
mistermack wrote:
Brian Peacock wrote: And when we've extinctified ourselves, the planet will continue on its merry way through the firmament abundantly fecund and blooming.
Yeh, but I'm replying to the proposition of the OP.
If you think that it's a rubbish proposition that's fair enough. But it's an odd way to say it, just to criticise posts that take the OP at face value.
Just stating my views in relation to your own. Let's say you just inspired me. :D
Yes, but my views are similar to what you said. What I wrote was just in the spirit of the question, not my end position on the significance of existence. Damn you for saying it first !
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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by cowiz » Fri May 18, 2012 4:45 pm

To the OP, has anyone said "pawiz" yet?
It's a piece of piss to be cowiz, but it's not cowiz to be a piece of piss. Or something like that.

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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Pappa » Fri May 18, 2012 5:20 pm

pawiz wrote:To the OP, has anyone said "pawiz" yet?
It says "achievement" not "disaster".

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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Bella Fortuna » Fri May 18, 2012 5:30 pm

Pappa wrote:
pawiz wrote:To the OP, has anyone said "pawiz" yet?
It says "achievement" not "disaster".
But as far as disasters go, he excels, so I guess that's a backwards "achievement."
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Re: What do you think is evolution's most important achievem

Post by Pappa » Fri May 18, 2012 8:22 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Pappa wrote:
pawiz wrote:To the OP, has anyone said "pawiz" yet?
It says "achievement" not "disaster".
But as far as disasters go, he excels, so I guess that's a backwards "achievement."
No, that would be a "tnemeveihca".
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