Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[higgs2]

I said don't vote Nelli! Grrr.
I am in a pickle about Charlou's status now. If she was originally scum and is now town, that puts us in a very bad position. Would Aza really have let that happen?

No, if that was the case - she'd be nailing the scum now, being that she knows who they are. I think chances are it was a town into town role situation.

I'm going to read over the days again. I've got my mind on higgs as well...

I don't knowabout that mantis, I think she'd be trying to be more subtle about it if she know about scum.

[Mantisdreamz]

I said don't vote Nelli! Grrr.
I am in a pickle about Charlou's status now. If she was originally scum and is now town, that puts us in a very bad position. Would Aza really have let that happen?

No, if that was the case - she'd be nailing the scum now, being that she knows who they are. I think chances are it was a town into town role situation.

I'm going to read over the days again. I've got my mind on higgs as well...

I don't knowabout that mantis, I think she'd be trying to be more subtle about it if she know about scum.

Yea, don't know.

I just got through about the first day and half of the second. I notice that Oblivion had fos'd you quite a bit and voted you on day 2.

I was also under the assumption that Jerome was the one that started the OB bw - but I see now, that it was actually gib. So, that might change things a little for me....

Be back later

[Zigmen]

I still don't see what the thing was with nelli. What about the scum/town lovebird link? Wouldn't it be better to get a town and a scum than no scum at all? I'm still on jerome vote jerome Charlou seems to have fibbed a couple of times about timing, because we know that ASA has told us she decided to give up her role to contra *before* roles went out and never received a role, that is not what she says. It's not much but really, lynch all liars. She also made it seem like she was the only one who know's contra's alignment for sure, which doesn't jibe with never receiving a role.

And how many games have you played with Jerome? A dozen or more?

Name me one game where he was Scum and didn't either freak out in a tirade or try some bizarre special claim.

Higgs, you of all people should know this. Your vote on Jerome is as Scummy as they come.

[Gonzo]

Seeing as that we lost two town and haven't hit ENDGAME - I am guessing the cult was destroyed. Since charlou's claim to have already seen contra's role has not been confirmed I am assuming she is the serial killer or scum. vote charlous Lynch all liars. I'm hoping somebody admits to making a mistake soon.

[M]

I still don't see what the thing was with nelli. What about the scum/town lovebird link? Wouldn't it be better to get a town and a scum than no scum at all? I'm still on jerome vote jerome Charlou seems to have fibbed a couple of times about timing, because we know that ASA has told us she decided to give up her role to contra *before* roles went out and never received a role, that is not what she says. It's not much but really, lynch all liars. She also made it seem like she was the only one who know's contra's alignment for sure, which doesn't jibe with never receiving a role.

And how many games have you played with Jerome? A dozen or more?

Name me one game where he was Scum and didn't either freak out in a tirade or try some bizarre special claim.

Higgs, you of all people should know this. Your vote on Jerome is as Scummy as they come.

But Zig, you've said this so many times now, it's likely he's playing along to support your defence of him. If that is his normal character and you are 'mentoring' him, you should let him speak up for himself.

[Zigmen]

M, you're right. He should speak for himself. His vote on a cleared player is typical of his failure to think through the evidence. Sorry to bash him for that, but it is common for him to make mistakes like we've seen today. He does that whether he's Town or Scum. They have a saying for that on TR that I will not repeat here. It basically says that poor decisions do not equal scumminess, but it says so in TR fashion whichg is inconsistant with Friendly Mafia.

And no, I'm not his mentor.

But, he has his Scum tells. He's been under preassure. He hasn't flailed. I'd bet the farm that he's Town.

Higgs know this full well. Her vote is a way of preying on the less-than-thought-out style of Jerome. It's scummy, and she knows it.

Also, I'm still leaning to the recruits being snuffed out for the reasons I've already stated.

We need to whack a Scum today. Higgs is it, as far as I'm concerned.

We need to unify our votes. I'm watching every vote that doesn't land on Higgs as a Scum tell at this point.

To me, the evidence is overwhelming against her. She doesn't bitch and whine when she's town. She doesn't spread wifom when she's town. And she certainly does not fucking vote for a Jerome who isn't flailing.

That's 3 strikes. She's out.

I've played dozens of games with her. I've been Scum with her. I know her game as well as she knows Jerome's game.

She's scum, folks. And watch for anyone who won't vote for her today.

[Zigmen]

Seeing as that we lost two town and haven't hit ENDGAME - I am guessing the cult was destroyed. Since charlou's claim to have already seen contra's role has not been confirmed I am assuming she is the serial killer or scum. vote charlous Lynch all liars. I'm hoping somebody admits to making a mistake soon.

I'm not sure we've seen a lie, but I can understand your view. Charlou is not cleared and would make an excellent candidate for discussion tomorrow.

But for today, we cannot afford to have our votes spread around where Scum can swoop in and sway a total. We need unity.

I'm asking that you switch to Higgs today, and that we can get a vote total high enough to avoid it being toppled while we discuss things.

[Zigmen]

Jerome, that goes for you too. I'm done sticking my neck out for you. Please get your vote on Higgs. Thanks.

[Contrapposto]

I don't see the balance in a scum/town lover role...not with a cult faction.
Think for a moment guys...what happens when cult recruit JEROME? Does he get to tell them or lead them to the other scum?
That's just plain stupid!

[Zigmen]

We should start discussing targets for the Vig (or kindly SK or whatever).

I'm leaning Vig because the kills seem to have been on players who got a fair amount of votes each day.

Town:

1.Zigmen - Me. The Doc. Town.
5. Gonzo - Viewed by Denny as Town. Denny was confirmed as the Seer today. Town.
17. Jerome da Gnome - Town game. Poor decisions at times. No flail. No crazy claims. Town
18. Charlou/Contra - 96% cleared by analysis of the substitutions allowed. Town.

Scum:
7. Higgs - Scum. Whiny, Wifomy, and voting Townies. Scum.

Unknown:
9. Mantis
15. M
16. Magicziggy/Charlou

Of the three unknowns-

What is your name? What is your role? (it's for the record, so please answer even if you already have).
Who have you voted for each day? (Again, it's for the record).

What do you think about the other two unknowns?

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

[Zigmen]

I don't see the balance in a scum/town lover role...not with a cult faction.
Think for a moment guys...what happens when cult recruit JEROME? Does he get to tell them or lead them to the other scum?
That's just plain stupid!

I do not think Jerome claimed Lover.

I think all the recruiters are dead.

Let's assume for now there are no lovers nor recruiters/recruits.

[Zigmen]

ETA:

Jerome. You claimed Vanilla Town.

Did you make any other hints towards being a lover?

If you cannot answer that because of role restrictions . . . Let me ask you like this.

Do you strongly like anyone in this game is a brother/sister purely platonic fashion that might be called friendship, but certainly not lovers?

[higgs2]

I still don't see what the thing was with nelli. What about the scum/town lovebird link? Wouldn't it be better to get a town and a scum than no scum at all? I'm still on jerome vote jerome Charlou seems to have fibbed a couple of times about timing, because we know that ASA has told us she decided to give up her role to contra *before* roles went out and never received a role, that is not what she says. It's not much but really, lynch all liars. She also made it seem like she was the only one who know's contra's alignment for sure, which doesn't jibe with never receiving a role.

And how many games have you played with Jerome? A dozen or more?

Name me one game where he was Scum and didn't either freak out in a tirade or try some bizarre special claim.

Higgs, you of all people should know this. Your vote on Jerome is as Scummy as they come.

I dunno zig, he prolly istown and his lover is scum. He might not eve know what lovers implies. I'm try to vote for the best chance to get scum I' can think of. Why did you think Nellikins was that best bet?

[Zigmen]

I dunno zig, he prolly istown and his lover is scum. He might not eve know what lovers implies. I'm try to vote for the best chance to get scum I' can think of. Why did you think Nellikins was that best bet?

I didn't think Nelli was the best bet. I thought you were the best bet.

I voted Nelli because my vote on you didn't attract anyone else's support.

Given the choice between the emerging BWs on Nelli and Jerome, I chose Nelli.

Town can't afford to spread their votes all over the place at this point.

[higgs2]

Also, it's possible that the mass out thing got our seer killed last night. That why I hate those things. But since every seems to be out I will tell you who I am. But you can't make snide remarks, I did not pick to be this person whoever they are.

I am cunt. I am vanilla ratz.

So lets hear form everyone else. Who are your sucpects.