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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:23 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
Magicziggy wrote:He has no eyes in the game. If he were scum how likely would he be to just stay away. If he were town, how likely would he be to just bail on a game.
that's the thing mz, even if he posted his kill on the write board, at the very least he'd need to check in and see who was alive. I can't see him just taking a shot in the dark as scum.
b.tern had access to the board all the way until nightfall. It's a long shot, and I doubt ksen's the last scum. That's why I think you should block MZ. or me. either way, you hopefully either clear or condemn the person you block.

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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:24 pm

oh i agree Ob, Mz has been very erratic this game, and wanting to go after feck last night was weird. That doesn't change the fact that he's been the hammer vote on both irre and b.tern. I get a stronger town vibe off of you, but his voting record is pretty antiscum.

Mz, why leave mono in the game at this point? if town mislynch the double kill will end us, at least with one kill tonight town will still be in the game.
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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:25 pm

Magicziggy wrote:You cast aside my observations about her as "she always looks scummy to me".
I did not drop her. I simply remained open to all possibilities.
I remember posting that I agreed with you about her post that seemed to assume you are town. Was it before or after nightfall?

going to check.

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Post by Magicziggy » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:27 pm

Ok, it's UTs call. Because there is no way that bussing Bt made any sense for him. He made the call. He gets the cred. The two of us simply agreed.

I don't agree with a mono lynch when to me it's obvious that ob is scum. If I were scum, I'd do exactly what ob us doing.

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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:28 pm

actually ob, i just thought of something that might explain things. If we misread the kills, mz could be the sk. it would explain his votes, and his behavior the last couple of days. And still explain the one kill night 2, scum did use mono to do the hit. it still has problems since it would mean irre killed char, but it's worth examining.
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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:29 pm

this is the post I made. It was hours before nightfall on night 2.
oblivion wrote:MZ, I hate predictable mislynches. with a player who gets mislynched a lot, I tend to be more cautious. And I tend to look with suspicion on people who capitalize on the players' presence in a game. The disadvantage to that approach is epitomized in the Tarot game. Mattshizzle skated to endgame without ever having even put a vote down, and though people thought he was scummy they gave him the benefit of the doubt. I can definitely see the reasons for thinking she is scummy, though. She's fallen a little scumwards in my list based on the exchanges with her the hour or so before she logged off for the night.

I thought the post you highlighted which seemed to be written with an assumption that you are town was suspicious. there is another player who appears to be assuming you are town, Irre. And you seem firmly convinced that she is town for reasons that absolutely escape me.

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Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:33 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:actually ob, i just thought of something that might explain things. If we misread the kills, mz could be the sk. it would explain his votes, and his behavior the last couple of days. And still explain the one kill night 2, scum did use mono to do the hit. it still has problems since it would mean irre killed char, but it's worth examining.
whoa. maybe so. It would explain why Irre was willing to white knight him so much on day 1. That's the thing. I can't quite believe he's on her team. Her white-knighting. His hammer vote.

Do you think I'm overstating his posting behavior re b.tern yesterday?

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Post by Magicziggy » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:34 pm

Going to work. Wifom the hell out of it UT.

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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:34 pm

Magicziggy wrote:Ok, it's UTs call. Because there is no way that bussing Bt made any sense for him. He made the call. He gets the cred. The two of us simply agreed.

I don't agree with a mono lynch when to me it's obvious that ob is scum. If I were scum, I'd do exactly what ob us doing.
you know me mz, it's often based on the math, i have very little doubt that killing mono will rid us of one night kill. so we'll be three town to one other(either scum or sk) tonight, with only one kill coming at us. if we mislynch today and leave mono in, town loses unless scum and the sk take each other out. Personally, i'd rather kill mono and insure we have tomorrow rather than trust to luck tonight. especially when i'm really on the fence about you or Ob.
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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:35 pm

oblivion wrote:this is the post I made. It was hours before nightfall on night 2.
oblivion wrote:MZ, I hate predictable mislynches. with a player who gets mislynched a lot, I tend to be more cautious. And I tend to look with suspicion on people who capitalize on the players' presence in a game. The disadvantage to that approach is epitomized in the Tarot game. Mattshizzle skated to endgame without ever having even put a vote down, and though people thought he was scummy they gave him the benefit of the doubt. I can definitely see the reasons for thinking she is scummy, though. She's fallen a little scumwards in my list based on the exchanges with her the hour or so before she logged off for the night.

I thought the post you highlighted which seemed to be written with an assumption that you are town was suspicious. there is another player who appears to be assuming you are town, Irre. And you seem firmly convinced that she is town for reasons that absolutely escape me.
not night 2. day 2. The post was made after 10 pm my time, shortly before I finally went to sleep that night.

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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:36 pm

Magicziggy wrote:Going to work. Wifom the hell out of it UT.
trust me i will, but if you have time, i really need to know why you believe it's better to kill ob than mono.
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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by oblivion » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:37 pm

Yeah, pretty much. It's possible UT's block will nail this game for town tonight.

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My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Magicziggy » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:38 pm

Kill me. That'll help. Do the math.

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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:39 pm

oblivion wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:actually ob, i just thought of something that might explain things. If we misread the kills, mz could be the sk. it would explain his votes, and his behavior the last couple of days. And still explain the one kill night 2, scum did use mono to do the hit. it still has problems since it would mean irre killed char, but it's worth examining.
whoa. maybe so. It would explain why Irre was willing to white knight him so much on day 1. That's the thing. I can't quite believe he's on her team. Her white-knighting. His hammer vote.

Do you think I'm overstating his posting behavior re b.tern yesterday?
okay, this "whoa" pinged a bit. where's ksen, i need a set of TR eyes on your posts. It's not that i don't agree with you, it's just the surprise you're trying to convey seemed a bit forced.
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Re: My Little Pony - Friendship is Magic: Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:41 pm

Magicziggy wrote:Kill me. That'll help. Do the math.
WTF!, no it won't unless this is a confession. I would really, really like ksen in here. This is a horrible position for me, I'm often thinking mz is guiltier than he is and ob more town than she is. But no matter what i don't think we can hit anyone other than mono today.
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