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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by ksen » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:32 pm

Ob, if I track the brain scooper I'll take your advice.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:39 pm

Yeah. Zigmen makes a lot of sense from any perspective as the n2 kill if they weren't going ignite the doomsday machine. A townie as universally suspected as he was, they may have thought he was a special. I had him down as a possible roleblocker, or maybe vig, based on how he reacted to Irre being blocked, which suggested to me that the scum team wasn't special hunting. That factored into my suspicion of ksen. and it should have pushed Feck even further up the list.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Athene » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:41 pm

oblivion wrote:Yeah. Zigmen makes a lot of sense from any perspective as the n2 kill if they weren't going ignite the doomsday machine. A townie as universally suspected as he was, they may have thought he was a special. I had him down as a possible roleblocker, or maybe vig, based on how he reacted to Irre being blocked, which suggested to me that the scum team wasn't special hunting. That factored into my suspicion of ksen. and it should have pushed Feck even further up the list.
You think zig was the scum kill?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:46 pm

No...that's why I'm saying it doesn't look like they were scumhunting.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:51 pm

Athene, I'm still not really satisfied with your explanation about mantis. I can see why you wouldn't leave a breadcrumb about viewing me, especially after I outed.

Another observation: I thought b.tern was scummy on day 1. I got a seer vibe off her on day 2 and backed off for that reason. But rereading her posts, I'm finding her reactions to events kind of off. They read like she has game knowledge that town players don't. And if she's not the seer, then they come off kinda scummy.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:52 pm

Feck, too, comes off like he had knowledge town didn't. It pinged when he tried to get UT to elaborate on his role.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Athene » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:01 pm

oblivion wrote:No...that's why I'm saying it doesn't look like they were scumhunting.
Reading comprehension fail on my part.

True, it looks like their strategy was just to get rid of irre, in that case we should possibly be looking at who was trying to keep a low profile d1 and d2, other then feck.

Ob - irre, ob, char, zig, b.tern, feck
DP - irre
Irre - zig
B.tern - zig
mantis - r.c
feck - mantis, ksen
ksen - i.c
no lynch athene, ksen
crumple - ob, mantis, b.tern, athene, u.t, irre


red - scum
blue - town
green - claimed special

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Mantisdreamz » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:05 pm

oblivion wrote:Feck, too, comes off like he had knowledge town didn't. It pinged when he tried to get UT to elaborate on his role.
It did didn't it. there was a post of his (end of yesterday) that looked like he was forcing out the question about yours and UT's roles because someone pointed out earlier that he hadn't been curious enough about the roles/flavour.


Not sure about b.tern - this post looked like she was speaking from her heart! http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 78#p909778

maybe we should suggest seer views? DP comes to mind first for me...

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:09 pm

b.tern - pings. not much scumhunting.
Charlou - sometimes pings, but is arguably scumhunting
D.P - pings. The whole Irre roleblock thing comes off as scumhunting, but I can't really point to any other contribution so far (will review again)
r.c - pings, but is arguably scumhunting
Ironclad - we seem to be forgetting about him, having dismissed his flavor-filled posts as probably townish

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Athene » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:12 pm

oblivion wrote:Athene, I'm still not really satisfied with your explanation about mantis. I can see why you wouldn't leave a breadcrumb about viewing me, especially after I outed.
I did leave a breadcrumb about you, I said in a reply to a post by mantis that I agreed with her about you and I was happier with you today then I was yesterday. As for you not being satisfied with my explanation about mantis, well I can't help that.
Another observation: I thought b.tern was scummy on day 1. I got a seer vibe off her on day 2 and backed off for that reason. But rereading her posts, I'm finding her reactions to events kind of off. They read like she has game knowledge that town players don't. And if she's not the seer, then they come off kinda scummy.
Apart from the one you quoted earlier today, are there any others?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:13 pm

Mantisdreamz wrote:
oblivion wrote:Feck, too, comes off like he had knowledge town didn't. It pinged when he tried to get UT to elaborate on his role.
It did didn't it. there was a post of his (end of yesterday) that looked like he was forcing out the question about yours and UT's roles because someone pointed out earlier that he hadn't been curious enough about the roles/flavour.


Not sure about b.tern - this post looked like she was speaking from her heart! http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 78#p909778

maybe we should suggest seer views? DP comes to mind first for me...
yeah that post did come off sincere, but it would be sincere whatever her alignment, I think.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Athene » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:16 pm

Athene wrote:
oblivion wrote:No...that's why I'm saying it doesn't look like they were scumhunting.
Reading comprehension fail on my part.

True, it looks like their strategy was just to get rid of irre, in that case we should possibly be looking at who was trying to keep a low profile d1 and d2, other then feck.

Ob - irre, ob, char, zig, b.tern, feck
DP - irre
Irre - zig
B.tern - zig
mantis - r.c
feck - mantis, ksen
ksen - i.c
no lynch athene, ksen
crumple - ob, mantis, b.tern, athene, u.t, irre


red - scum
blue - town
green - claimed special
neither charlou nor dp put votes down on day 2, charlou says she's not going to lynch but dp's last post of the day is to talk about how no lynches are a bad idea and how we need to scum hunt.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:18 pm

Athene wrote:
oblivion wrote:Athene, I'm still not really satisfied with your explanation about mantis. I can see why you wouldn't leave a breadcrumb about viewing me, especially after I outed.
I did leave a breadcrumb about you, I said in a reply to a post by mantis that I agreed with her about you and I was happier with you today then I was yesterday. As for you not being satisfied with my explanation about mantis, well I can't help that.
Another observation: I thought b.tern was scummy on day 1. I got a seer vibe off her on day 2 and backed off for that reason. But rereading her posts, I'm finding her reactions to events kind of off. They read like she has game knowledge that town players don't. And if she's not the seer, then they come off kinda scummy.
Apart from the one you quoted earlier today, are there any others?
It just doesn't compute that you wouldn't want town to know she viewed as town if you died. All of your views would be caveated unless a don turned up dead anyway. At this point, I'm not questioning your roleclaim. I'm stuck on this because it's a puzzle piece that doesn't fit. But, I have seen in the past where a seer not leaving a breadcrumb about a view caused a whole lot of consternation when they eventually outed. In that game, the seer said he would have left a breadcrumb before daybreak if other events hadn't made it moot.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by oblivion » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:22 pm

It's not just that you didn't leave a breadcrumb. It's that you posted a suspicion of someone you had viewed as town.

I dunno. I'll save the rest for the post game. (where I expect to do a lot of wincing, btw).

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 3

Post by Athene » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:33 pm

oblivion wrote:
Athene wrote:
oblivion wrote:Athene, I'm still not really satisfied with your explanation about mantis. I can see why you wouldn't leave a breadcrumb about viewing me, especially after I outed.
I did leave a breadcrumb about you, I said in a reply to a post by mantis that I agreed with her about you and I was happier with you today then I was yesterday. As for you not being satisfied with my explanation about mantis, well I can't help that.
Another observation: I thought b.tern was scummy on day 1. I got a seer vibe off her on day 2 and backed off for that reason. But rereading her posts, I'm finding her reactions to events kind of off. They read like she has game knowledge that town players don't. And if she's not the seer, then they come off kinda scummy.
Apart from the one you quoted earlier today, are there any others?
It just doesn't compute that you wouldn't want town to know she viewed as town if you died. All of your views would be caveated unless a don turned up dead anyway. At this point, I'm not questioning your roleclaim. I'm stuck on this because it's a puzzle piece that doesn't fit. But, I have seen in the past where a seer not leaving a breadcrumb about a view caused a whole lot of consternation when they eventually outed. In that game, the seer said he would have left a breadcrumb before daybreak if other events hadn't made it moot.
I did want town to know I'd viewed her, but I was also suspicious of her based on her game play. If I made an error of judgement then I made an error of judgement. Fortunately for us I didn't get killed and leave a trail of confusion.

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