Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil

[oblivion]

ok. did the math wrong.

So you are saying you pmed him well before the topic came up, but didn't explicitly say that you'd gotten clarification from Gonzo. You let people go back and forth about it for another day without clarifying it.

bloody hell. If that's true then you're an idiot.

[oblivion]

and if Gonzo clarified it for you, but didn't clarify in thread after I asked him, then bloody fucking hell.

I will get myself godkilled if you fliip town.

[Zigmen]

I'm pretty sure that was a town investigative role. looks like it's designed to help locate agent 47 or whoever. I'll ask gonzo to clarify for us.

my post from night chat. The timestamp on that post is shortly before the timestamp on my PM.

Re: Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil
by oblivion » Fri Jul 29, 2011 6:38 pm

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 60#p929460

Did you send a PM to Gonzo?

Can you post it here?

You can essentially clear yourself if this is true, imho.

[oblivion]

I posted it two pages back:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 60#p930721

diva posted the header info to what she says is her PM but didn't post her text.

[Zigmen]

and if Gonzo clarified it for you, but didn't clarify in thread after I asked him, then bloody fucking hell.

I will get myself godkilled if you fliip town.

No need to be rash.

If, as you suggested, Diva does flip Town, that largely proves that she played her hand incorrectly.

If, otoh, you did send a PM to Gonzo (and not just claim you would), and you prove it, then you become as cleared as any player we have, and a godkill would be as bad as Diva not saying sooner that Gonzo confirmed Charlou as Scum.

Why make a bad situation worse?

[Contrapposto]

ok. did the math wrong.

So you are saying you pmed him well before the topic came up, but didn't explicitly say that you'd gotten clarification from Gonzo. You let people go back and forth about it for another day without clarifying it.

bloody hell. If that's true then you're an idiot.

More an error for bringing up the PM thing in the first place after all that has transpired.
That does look pretty damning. Do you still believe she didn't actually send or receive a PM?

[Zigmen]

I posted it two pages back:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 60#p930721

diva posted the header info to what she says is her PM but didn't post her text.

So, you're suggesting a godkill more as a bet that you're right?

Strong bet . . .

But, I would be cautious in the future not to underestimate the poor play of others nor the cheeky nature of GMs.

FWIW, i think Diva is clutching at straws and I think you're going to walk away from this looking pretty good. Well, as good as can be expected given your other issues in this game.

[Zigmen]

ok. did the math wrong.

So you are saying you pmed him well before the topic came up, but didn't explicitly say that you'd gotten clarification from Gonzo. You let people go back and forth about it for another day without clarifying it.

bloody hell. If that's true then you're an idiot.

More an error for bringing up the PM thing in the first place after all that has transpired.
That does look pretty damning. Do you still believe she didn't actually send or receive a PM?

Diva provided a copy of a header, but no content. That PM could have been anything.

Where's the PM's content?

The lack of which seems to be driving this whole BW.

[oblivion]

and if Gonzo clarified it for you, but didn't clarify in thread after I asked him, then bloody fucking hell.

I will get myself godkilled if you fliip town.

No need to be rash.

If, as you suggested, Diva does flip Town, that largely proves that she played her hand incorrectly.

If, otoh, you did send a PM to Gonzo (and not just claim you would), and you prove it, then you become as cleared as any player we have, and a godkill would be as bad as Diva not saying sooner that Gonzo confirmed Charlou as Scum.

Why make a bad situation worse?

From a game perspective: because I'll get lynched tomorrow over a GM error if diva flips town. And that is worse for town than me being godkilled and town having a chance to lynch scum tomorrow.

From a game ethics perspective: because if diva is town, then the game was broken by not making the same clarification available to all players. getting a second PM about it from me should have made it clear it wasn't just one confused player.

If I were GMing and had wound up in this fix, I really don't know what I'd do.

[Zigmen]

Well, we'll just wait and see, then.

[Contrapposto]

ok. did the math wrong.

So you are saying you pmed him well before the topic came up, but didn't explicitly say that you'd gotten clarification from Gonzo. You let people go back and forth about it for another day without clarifying it.

bloody hell. If that's true then you're an idiot.

More an error for bringing up the PM thing in the first place after all that has transpired.
That does look pretty damning. Do you still believe she didn't actually send or receive a PM?

Diva provided a copy of a header, but no content. That PM could have been anything.

Where's the PM's content?

The lack of which seems to be driving this whole BW.

Regardless of whether it was accompanied by text it could just as easily have been fabricated anyway.

[Zigmen]

Anyone up for a /final vote?

[Contrapposto]

Anyone up for a /final vote?

How much time do we have?

[Linus]

Anyone up for a /final vote?

It does looks like the diva BW will be the winning one today, but I'd like the 6 players who haven't voted to vote while it still has a chance of making a difference.

[oblivion]

guys, look real hard at zigmen tomorrow, along with Linus.

I think nightfall is in about 2.5 hours. I doubt final voting will change anything.

And I don't like Zigmen trying to shut this down when might post her pm text before nightfall.