ElfQuest Mafia - Game Thread

[irretating]

AFAICT...

N0:
irre gave double-vote hammer to ut

N1:
scum NKed higgs
athene had a dream about higgs

msg protected msg
ut viewed irre
ut passed on double-vote hammer to mz ?

irre gave impotent dagger to aza

N2:
msg protected feck
scum targeted feck ?
aza had a dream about feck
aza wounded praying

??? NKed mz
denny NKed mantis
irre gave bus driver/view abilitity to ut/feck ?

Why do you assume higgs was a scum kill, yet you don't assume MZ was a scum kill?

Actually, I think I can answer this - didn't Aza say that in his dream about feck, someone tried to kill him (feck), but feck was protected? (Something about a party where one of the people couldn't get in?) So that would mean that either Feck or MZ was the scum target. Can scum NK more than one person?

Interesting, though, that Aza has also focused on praying. That's Mantis (known scum), Linus (IMO suss) and now Aza pointing the FoS at praying.

I'd like Linus to answer it, though. His answer is likely to be most illuminating.

[Linus]

Why do you assume higgs was a scum kill, yet you don't assume MZ was a scum kill?

The kill method reported by the GM and Athene's reported dream point toward Higgs being scum kill. Extrapolating from that, Aza's dream seems to indicate that Feck was the scum target on N2, and the reported kill method for MZ isn't suggestive of trolls.

[irretating]

Why do you assume higgs was a scum kill, yet you don't assume MZ was a scum kill?

The kill method reported by the GM and Athene's reported dream point toward Higgs being scum kill. Extrapolating from that, Aza's dream seems to indicate that Feck was the scum target on N2, and the reported kill method for MZ isn't suggestive of trolls.

Do you think it likely to have a SK in this game? Or, more than one vig? How can MZ's kill be anything other than a scum kill?

You are almost certainly scum.

[Linus]

Have you made a role claim, Linus?

Not explicitly, but I've given some strong hints. See the discussion about role PMs.

[Uselesstwit]

I really don't buy mz as a scum kill either. how do you explain aza's dream if it wasn't a block?

[irretating]

I'm surprised nobody has checked out my posts today ,I know some of you are indie and wouldn't know but some people must know how the actual PM sent to town differs from the one posted in the PG it also accounts for why Praying could have been confused .

AFAICT, my role PM fits the template perfectly. Are you sure you got a vanilla PM (e.g. potential mason doesn't sound quite like vanilla)?

You mean this post? I would have thought that after the discussion you had with Aza, that you would realise we expect safe role claims, and it counts for nothing to say you have the same PM as the one the game mod spells out is vanilla town.

[irretating]

I really don't buy mz as a scum kill either. how do you explain aza's dream if it wasn't a block?

If not a scum kill, what?

[irretating]

Oh, and you have a most credible role claim, UT, whereas Linus doesn't. I am really interested in what Linus supposes happened last night.

[Linus]

You mean this post? I would have thought that after the discussion you had with Aza, that you would realise we expect safe role claims, and it counts for nothing to say you have the same PM as the one the game mod spells out is vanilla town.

Given your thoughts about PMs and safe claims, what did you hope to achieve by asking me to role claim?

[irretating]

You mean this post? I would have thought that after the discussion you had with Aza, that you would realise we expect safe role claims, and it counts for nothing to say you have the same PM as the one the game mod spells out is vanilla town.

Given your thoughts about PMs and safe claims, what did you hope to achieve by asking me to role claim?

I'm just putting the pressure on you, watching to see what you'll say. I know you're almost certainly scum, and you are not coming up with a fast answer as to who could have killed MZ if it wasn't scum.

[Uselesstwit]

But if Aza'a knife wasn't a killing weapon that doesn't shift the balance much .MZ was a scum kill I guess (or a scum aligned SK?)

Oh I know I was visited by one person ... if I was protected by someone that's good But if someone blocked another last night it's even better because we have found another scum I think ...

Was that person "well endowed" or some similar description?

no char. i got the visit from that person last night, but it's interesting that you'd ask that while evidently missing my post about it.

[irretating]

char seems to have missed a number of posts, including MSG's doc claim.

[Linus]

I'm just putting the pressure on you, watching to see what you'll say. I know you're almost certainly scum, and you are not coming up with a fast answer as to who could have killed MZ if it wasn't scum.

I don't know. Extra kill, SK, third faction. I'll worry about it if and when there's more info (e.g. if the game doesn't end when all scum are gone).

[Uselesstwit]

i find that very worrying coming from char.

[irretating]

I'm just putting the pressure on you, watching to see what you'll say. I know you're almost certainly scum, and you are not coming up with a fast answer as to who could have killed MZ if it wasn't scum.

I don't know. Extra kill, SK, third faction. I'll worry about it if and when there's more info (e.g. if the game doesn't end when all scum are gone).

Extra kill - never seen one in a mafia game.
SK - is that likely in a game this size? Given I'm a survivor indie as it is?
Third faction - is that likely in a game this size?

i find that very worrying coming from char.

Yes, but do you see scum being that absent minded?

Who are your suspects, UT?