MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action (GAME)

[charlou]

amok ... I want to see you get into the game and scum hunt/ work things through the way you did in that game where you earned mvp. Until then it's really difficult to get a read, and I'd really like some gameplay to base my read on.

I'm reading. I've also been drinking a little bit this evening, unfortunately.

I'm a bit wary of trying to work things out today, under the circumstance. Not to mention that because I apparently went off enough on a flavour tangent yesterday to almost break the game.

I'm trying to find the other game where a "No Lynch" was an active option, rather than just unvoting. I know I read it somewhere, and I've only played here and at RatSkep.

So you're moving from a focus on a null traitor issue to the "no lynch" issue that the rest of us seem to have moved on from.

amok, what do you think of all the players so far? Can you post a list of most town to least town/scummiest please?

[charlou]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

Charlou was on the team as well.

emphasis in bold...

No shit! I had so many slip ups as scum it was like watching an old slapstick comedy.
I even faked an accident on the road to try covering up a slip where I said "killed" instead of "blocked".
good times.

The fuck you did?!

[irretating]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

agreed, both on her looking less forceful town today, as well as dp and her pulling some shenanigans. in fact the way they joked about both being on the same scum team really reminded me of irre and ob doing that last game. Overall, I'm still not seeing the things I look for in her scum game, she's just not as overtly town feeling as yesterday.

I didn't joke in-thread with ob about being on the same team IIRC.

As for not looking as forceful town today, I'm a bit hamstrung. By adenosine. I don't think it's scummy for him to think b.tern is scummy, nor to think I am. I do think it's scummy to say that if b.tern flips scum I'm his next lynch. And.. his full listing. But yeah, hamstrung because I did the most amazing trolley track number on him previously. My new zen style is to be more relaxed and not go for the throat, lest I am trolley tracking. I'm not going after adenosine, given my history there, and he's gaining some traction with charlou (...speaking of grooming.. and I'm not talking about char doing grooming, if there is any going on). I'm also a bit hamstrung by charlou. Between the two of them, I'm going to take a bit of a back seat.

My scum picks thus far are MZ, Aza, possibly zigmen and possibly adenosine. I'm not going all out against any of them.

[charlou]

I reread all the posts irre made after I outed yesterday. She's looking town ... there's been no dogged scum hunting, but there has been enough analysis to look pro-town to me. I think it was all her banterish posts that meant her gameplay posts didn't stick in my mind.

irre, you mentioned Az's weird play ... I'd like to put it to the test today .. I'm wondering if he's not posted because he's pissed off that the scum night actions didn't go through. Let's see if some pressure brings him out to play.

##unvote andrewclunn##

##vote Azathoth##

[irretating]

lol xpost char

[irretating]

I reread all the posts irre made after I outed yesterday. She's looking town ... there's been no dogged scum hunting, but there has been enough analysis to look pro-town to me. I think it was all her banterish posts that meant her gameplay posts didn't stick in my mind.

irre, you mentioned Az's weird play ... I'd like to put it to the test today .. I'm wondering if he's not posted because he's pissed off that the scum night actions didn't go through. Let's see if some pressure brings him out to play.

##unvote andrewclunn##

##vote Azathoth##

Yep aza is a good option. His play has been so weird that it's yet another thing that makes me wonder about UT for not noticing.

##vote azathoth##

[Uselesstwit]

I reread all the posts irre made after I outed yesterday. She's looking town ... there's been no dogged scum hunting, but there has been enough analysis to look pro-town to me. I think it was all her banterish posts that meant her gameplay posts didn't stick in my mind.

irre, you mentioned Az's weird play ... I'd like to put it to the test today .. I'm wondering if he's not posted because he's pissed off that the scum night actions didn't go through. Let's see if some pressure brings him out to play.

##unvote andrewclunn##

##vote Azathoth##

i think if that happened to aza we'd already know it.

[Uselesstwit]

I reread all the posts irre made after I outed yesterday. She's looking town ... there's been no dogged scum hunting, but there has been enough analysis to look pro-town to me. I think it was all her banterish posts that meant her gameplay posts didn't stick in my mind.

irre, you mentioned Az's weird play ... I'd like to put it to the test today .. I'm wondering if he's not posted because he's pissed off that the scum night actions didn't go through. Let's see if some pressure brings him out to play.

##unvote andrewclunn##

##vote Azathoth##

Yep aza is a good option. His play has been so weird that it's yet another thing that makes me wonder about UT for not noticing.

##vote azathoth##

fine i'll go reread his posts.

[charlou]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

agreed, both on her looking less forceful town today, as well as dp and her pulling some shenanigans. in fact the way they joked about both being on the same scum team really reminded me of irre and ob doing that last game. Overall, I'm still not seeing the things I look for in her scum game, she's just not as overtly town feeling as yesterday.

I didn't joke in-thread with ob about being on the same team IIRC.

As for not looking as forceful town today, I'm a bit hamstrung. By adenosine. I don't think it's scummy for him to think b.tern is scummy, nor to think I am. I do think it's scummy to say that if b.tern flips scum I'm his next lynch. And.. his full listing. But yeah, hamstrung because I did the most amazing trolley track number on him previously. My new zen style is to be more relaxed and not go for the throat, lest I am trolley tracking. I'm not going after adenosine, given my history there, and he's gaining some traction with charlou (...speaking of grooming.. and I'm not talking about char doing grooming, if there is any going on). I'm also a bit hamstrung by charlou. Between the two of them, I'm going to take a bit of a back seat.

My scum picks thus far are MZ, Aza, possibly zigmen and possibly adenosine. I'm not going all out against any of them.

I'm with you on MZ and Az. Not so sure about Zigmen after today's posts .. would like to hear more from him. Aden ... yeah, his rationale for suspicion just seems a bit contrived and too focussed on the one player right out of the gate ... especially given he should know your scum game style is to avoid being seen to be associating with scum teammates. I'll let the fact that he forgot b.ter is borealis slide as it could well be the case. I'ma have to hear more from Aden, I think.

[Contrapposto]

I'll be back to post some more after yoga.
Later, peeps.

[b.ternarius]

aden? do you have a track record playing with b.tern? if so how good are your reads on her generally?

I know we've played in the same game before, at least once, maybe a few more, but I don'tr remember her game at all. This is pretty much pure objective reading.

Are you aware that b.ter is borealis at TR?

Where's that facepalm smilie? Of course she is, duh! From what I've seen of her game she isn't shy to fos and vote and does some pretty good analysis too. None of which I saw yesterday.

Char, I think you are who you claim to be. I'm liking gib and UT at the moment. Andrew I'm reserving judgement on. DP pinged when I read and then faded into the background noise. Leaning slightly town on MZ. Still sus of irre. amok I think is townish. Shizz Seems relaxed which is an unusual way for me to see him. I'd lean town on him. Who else? Athene blended.

You sure you've played with me? Because I'm pretty sure that, while flattering, your description of my mafia ability would be a surprise to most of the TR mafia godlets.

Your WoT on my posts was a fascinating insight into how a story can be put together from scattered out of context posts strung together. Left out some stuff though. Most of my posts to andrewclunn, which you ruled no content or fluff, were to let him know why I fos'd him and trying to clear up the differences between the mafia he's been playing and the mafia we play here. I still think he's suspicious, just not quite as.

What do you think of Az? He's looking a bit odd and other people are noticing that. You didn't even mention him in your list in this post.

[Adenosine]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

agreed, both on her looking less forceful town today, as well as dp and her pulling some shenanigans. in fact the way they joked about both being on the same scum team really reminded me of irre and ob doing that last game. Overall, I'm still not seeing the things I look for in her scum game, she's just not as overtly town feeling as yesterday.

I didn't joke in-thread with ob about being on the same team IIRC.

As for not looking as forceful town today, I'm a bit hamstrung. By adenosine. I don't think it's scummy for him to think b.tern is scummy, nor to think I am. I do think it's scummy to say that if b.tern flips scum I'm his next lynch. And.. his full listing. But yeah, hamstrung because I did the most amazing trolley track number on him previously. My new zen style is to be more relaxed and not go for the throat, lest I am trolley tracking. I'm not going after adenosine, given my history there, and he's gaining some traction with charlou (...speaking of grooming.. and I'm not talking about char doing grooming, if there is any going on). I'm also a bit hamstrung by charlou. Between the two of them, I'm going to take a bit of a back seat.

My scum picks thus far are MZ, Aza, possibly zigmen and possibly adenosine. I'm not going all out against any of them.

Honestly irre, if I was scum there are better targets than you.

To me, the best way to show that you are town is to play the game. At this point you don't have any votes on you.

What do you think of b.tern? Do you think it is her normal game to go a whole day without a single fos?

[Uselesstwit]

that was easy, and i still read him as snarling town aza, and certainly his first posts today don't make me think his night actions were arbitrarily blocked. aza has a pretty short fuse for game meddling, as we saw last game.

[charlou]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

agreed, both on her looking less forceful town today, as well as dp and her pulling some shenanigans. in fact the way they joked about both being on the same scum team really reminded me of irre and ob doing that last game. Overall, I'm still not seeing the things I look for in her scum game, she's just not as overtly town feeling as yesterday.

I didn't joke in-thread with ob about being on the same team IIRC.

As for not looking as forceful town today, I'm a bit hamstrung. By adenosine. I don't think it's scummy for him to think b.tern is scummy, nor to think I am. I do think it's scummy to say that if b.tern flips scum I'm his next lynch. And.. his full listing. But yeah, hamstrung because I did the most amazing trolley track number on him previously. My new zen style is to be more relaxed and not go for the throat, lest I am trolley tracking. I'm not going after adenosine, given my history there, and he's gaining some traction with charlou (...speaking of grooming.. and I'm not talking about char doing grooming, if there is any going on). I'm also a bit hamstrung by charlou. Between the two of them, I'm going to take a bit of a back seat.

My scum picks thus far are MZ, Aza, possibly zigmen and possibly adenosine. I'm not going all out against any of them.

I'm with you on MZ and Az. Not so sure about Zigmen after today's posts .. would like to hear more from him. Aden ... yeah, his rationale for suspicion just seems a bit contrived and too focussed on the one player right out of the gate ... especially given he should know your scum game style is to avoid being seen to be associating with scum teammates. I'll let the fact that he forgot b.ter is borealis slide as it could well be the case. I'ma have to hear more from Aden, I think.

Actually, I'm not sure about MZ ... I keep wavering on him ... He's playing differently, but it seems different to both his town and scum game play.

MZ, what do you think about Az's game so far?

[charlou]

crosspost UT.