MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action (GAME)

[Adenosine]

aden? do you have a track record playing with b.tern? if so how good are your reads on her generally?

I know we've played in the same game before, at least once, maybe a few more, but I don'tr remember her game at all. This is pretty much pure objective reading.

Are you aware that b.ter is borealis at TR?

Where's that facepalm smilie? Of course she is, duh! From what I've seen of her game she isn't shy to fos and vote and does some pretty good analysis too. None of which I saw yesterday.

Char, I think you are who you claim to be. I'm liking gib and UT at the moment. Andrew I'm reserving judgement on. DP pinged when I read and then faded into the background noise. Leaning slightly town on MZ. Still sus of irre. amok I think is townish. Shizz Seems relaxed which is an unusual way for me to see him. I'd lean town on him. Who else? Athene blended.

[Drewish]

What are your thoughts Zigmen, judging by his posts yesterday and today?

I can't tell, are you asking for Zigmen's thoughts on me or azathoth, or did you mean to ask for my thoughts on Zigmen?

Sorry, I'm asking you if you have any thoughts about Zigmen's posts, thus far?

Minimal contributions until pressure got turned on him. Posting that wanes is to be expected, posting that picks up the moment people start throwing accusations at you seems like a failed attempt to skate.

[charlou]

Hello contra!

Agree with your thoughts re triangulation v grooming, there.



re "grooming" ... I thought I came up with that term ... at FF, iirc ... ? No matter, whether the cap fits is what must be determined in each case.

[Adenosine]

01 Adenosine - duh
02 Amok - leaning town
03 andrewclunn - leaning more and more town
04 Azathoth - way too quiet, very sus
05 b.ternarius - scummy
06 charlou - doc
07 Contra - no read
08 DP - pinged yesterday then blended after acknowledging that he always pings
09 Feck - very little to go on but nothing pinging yet
10 gib - leaning town
11 Irre - scummish but not locked in. Still think that finding b.tern townish after she did nothing very suspicious
12 MagicZiggy - outing the PM aside I think his play has been pro-town
13 MattShizzle - interesting, leaning town
14 UselessTwit - leaning town
15 Zigmen - I can never read him. He zigs when others are zagging. But his posts today seem to be trying to build a case on statistics and trying to figure out Gonzo's brain. And good luck with that. I haven't seen scum hunting.

Also I've totally lost my objectivity. I'm stepping back for a couple of hours to do some study. Hopefully that will refresh my brain.

[charlou]

What are your thoughts Zigmen, judging by his posts yesterday and today?

I can't tell, are you asking for Zigmen's thoughts on me or azathoth, or did you mean to ask for my thoughts on Zigmen?

Sorry, I'm asking you if you have any thoughts about Zigmen's posts, thus far?

Minimal contributions until pressure got turned on him. Posting that wanes is to be expected, posting that picks up the moment people start throwing accusations at you seems like a failed attempt to skate.

I was interested in his interpretation of the likelihood of gib and contra's alignment, based on the timing thing ... One thing which stood out from that is it kinda killed my idea that Zigmen had voted for a don mayor, which is what I'd been thinking might be the case upon rereading this (day 1) post:

@@Vote Athene@@

She seems to be making sense and catching a few of the same vibes I've been catching. Always good to get her viewed early as well in case I'm wrong.

##Vote Charlou##

Something seems off about her game but it's hard to quantify. Gonna go with my gut.

He wouldn't vote Athene in as don mayor, then cast doubt on contra's alignment the way he did.

Other than that, I've not altered my view of Zigmen much, as yet ... I really want to hear more from him ... would like to see his response to my questions.

[charlou]

Has anyone else thought about how pissed off scum would be at having their night actions voided?

[charlou]

amok ... I want to see you get into the game and scum hunt/ work things through the way you did in that game where you earned mvp. Until then it's really difficult to get a read, and I'd really like some gameplay to base my read on.

[charlou]

01 Adenosine - duh
02 Amok - leaning town
03 andrewclunn - leaning more and more town
04 Azathoth - way too quiet, very sus
05 b.ternarius - scummy
06 charlou - doc
07 Contra - no read
08 DP - pinged yesterday then blended after acknowledging that he always pings
09 Feck - very little to go on but nothing pinging yet
10 gib - leaning town
11 Irre - scummish but not locked in. Still think that finding b.tern townish after she did nothing very suspicious
12 MagicZiggy - outing the PM aside I think his play has been pro-town
13 MattShizzle - interesting, leaning town
14 UselessTwit - leaning town
15 Zigmen - I can never read him. He zigs when others are zagging. But his posts today seem to be trying to build a case on statistics and trying to figure out Gonzo's brain. And good luck with that. I haven't seen scum hunting.

Also I've totally lost my objectivity. I'm stepping back for a couple of hours to do some study. Hopefully that will refresh my brain.

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

Why do you have amok as leaning town?

[Magicziggy]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

Charlou was on the team as well.

[charlou]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

[charlou]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

Charlou was on the team as well.

Open old wounds, why don't you

[Uselesstwit]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

agreed, both on her looking less forceful town today, as well as dp and her pulling some shenanigans. in fact the way they joked about both being on the same scum team really reminded me of irre and ob doing that last game. Overall, I'm still not seeing the things I look for in her scum game, she's just not as overtly town feeling as yesterday.

[Adenosine]

I'm not sure about irre ... After I outed she has changed tack completely ... she doesn't seem to be scum hunting at all now (I will reread her posts in isolation, to be sure though) ... Her game kinda looks more towny, but I dunno ... If anything, I think it's possible irre may have been grooming a town b.ter there ... but I could be way off ... fuck knows it wouldn't be the first time ... will reread irre's posts now ...

^ And irre and DP cooking up a DP bus would not surprise me at all.

Interesting. DP himself said that he is a suspicion magnet so if he is scum then he'd want one of his buddies to build some cred out of it.

I'm leaning town on amok because of her bumbling trying to explain the traitor thing. It didn't read like scum filler/flail, it really looked like a townie trying to explain her reasoning to a disbelieving audience. I do agree with you though, more amok today would be good.

[amok]

amok ... I want to see you get into the game and scum hunt/ work things through the way you did in that game where you earned mvp. Until then it's really difficult to get a read, and I'd really like some gameplay to base my read on.

I'm reading. I've also been drinking a little bit this evening, unfortunately.

I'm a bit wary of trying to work things out today, under the circumstance. Not to mention that because I apparently went off enough on a flavour tangent yesterday to almost break the game.

I'm trying to find the other game where a "No Lynch" was an active option, rather than just unvoting. I know I read it somewhere, and I've only played here and at RatSkep.

[Contrapposto]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

Charlou was on the team as well.

emphasis in bold...

No shit! I had so many slip ups as scum it was like watching an old slapstick comedy.
I even faked an accident on the road to try covering up a slip where I said "killed" instead of "blocked".
good times.