MGS3: Snake Eater Mafia - Tactical Espionage Action (GAME)

[irretating]

Oi! It just dawned on me that you think I'm scum, too, ade :colbert:

I think b.tern is town, my notes on her from yesterday are: "admitting to joining the vote MZ as mayor crowd… not do this as scum, nor is voting andrew"

The exchange that you think pings hardest is b.tern acknowledging that we were on the same scum team recently. Well that's what I thought of it, anyway.

You've gone to a fair bit of trouble to make the case, so I'll have another think about her.

BTW agree on andrew looking german

:pennydrop:

Yup, if b.tern flips scum I'm voting for you tomorrow.

It's a bloody thin premise to label someone town on on day one isn't it? That meta- speaking she wouldn't follow on a mayor vote nor would she pick the soft target?

If she's scum I think it's uber insulting to then conclude I'm scum. I would never (and have never) colluded chummily like that with scum, I'd never be able to wash the slime off of me if I did. Plus, it's a little... elementary, no?

[Magicziggy]

i think it was odd when people said he was town for publicising that there was a traitor - even i read the OP

so i had that in mind on the reread (which i'll prolly get back to at some point) and yet his game seemed to match up pretty well with that one here recently, the one where ob was scum. Not a strong read either way tho

Yep, nobody read the OP properly it looks like.

[Adenosine]

Hi Adenosine.

Since you've just done a read through, can I get your take on Athene/Contra.
She is most people's town pile.

Your case on b.t looks a little contrived with the commentary. I made my mind up about DP yesterday and could have put a case against him on that basis. I restrained myself and decided to just vote and let it fly.
However, the girl's club stuff between b.t and Irre did make me double take. Didn;t seem that scummy though.

I'll have a think about it.

What do you make of Andrew. I'm thinking traitor, but I'm really after the scum that I think he's trying to make us avoid lynching.

mega xpost

Athene blended in. Good scum strategy or genuine town? I don't know yet. I can't read Contra at all. We tend to clash in Mafia so that will be interesting when he starts playing.

wrt the b.tern case commentary I didn't want to just leave the posts hanging. I wanted people to see what I saw and to follow my thought processes. Quotes without comments aren't town-friendly.

I didn't see the irre-b.tern dialogue as girls club, I saw it as weird and scummy especially as I had just seen b.tern do nothing that I could claim was pro-town.

I don't know about Andrew. There's a major culture clash here. We'll see what happens over the next few days, whether he adjusts to playing our way and brings new skills or whether he gets himself lynched by pushing a stance that doesn't work.

[Magicziggy]

I think Adenosine has given us an object lesson in how to look town from the word go.
You have probably followed the game and already reached some conclusions by observing.
I can't really find flaw in what you've posted.

From which mafia dimension do you hail?

[Adenosine]

Oi! It just dawned on me that you think I'm scum, too, ade :colbert:

I think b.tern is town, my notes on her from yesterday are: "admitting to joining the vote MZ as mayor crowd… not do this as scum, nor is voting andrew"

The exchange that you think pings hardest is b.tern acknowledging that we were on the same scum team recently. Well that's what I thought of it, anyway.

You've gone to a fair bit of trouble to make the case, so I'll have another think about her.

BTW agree on andrew looking german

:pennydrop:

Yup, if b.tern flips scum I'm voting for you tomorrow.

It's a bloody thin premise to label someone town on on day one isn't it? That meta- speaking she wouldn't follow on a mayor vote nor would she pick the soft target?

If she's scum I think it's uber insulting to then conclude I'm scum. I would never (and have never) colluded chummily like that with scum, I'd never be able to wash the slime off of me if I did. Plus, it's a little... elementary, no?

But that's the problem isn't it? Everyone knows you (plural) don't collude when you're scum so when someone backs another player up we think "ok, town play" and move on. Scum don't do the predictable.

[Uselesstwit]

so gib, who are your town and scum picks so far?

clunny is town, he's trying to use the town tool from whatever celtic mafia he plays there

char's claim is fine, mz looks ok, buying irre is town

zig looks scummy, amok is a question mark

shizzle i thought was town until he just showed up the fucked off

who else is there, aza - dunno, you - dunno

athene - ?

You think MZ looks ok, I'm not so sure.

him leaving feck, btern and dp off concerns me more than the people he did list.

[irretating]

i think it was odd when people said he was town for publicising that there was a traitor - even i read the OP

so i had that in mind on the reread (which i'll prolly get back to at some point) and yet his game seemed to match up pretty well with that one here recently, the one where ob was scum. Not a strong read either way tho

Yes my thoughts are the same.

We didn't get a lynch yesterday, but the flopping onto the MZ mayor BW is interesting. Aza votes first, based on meta, then shizz agrees (which, if not paying huge attention to the OP and flavour seems ok-ish), then andrew most wholeheartedly absolutely agrees. Hmm. UT hopping on really seemed weird, and it'll take some town play from him to convince he of his town creds. Charlou hopped on, after all the brouhaha about me not hopping on (but we've moved on from that, I think) and then b.tern hopped on.

This is another reason I don't see b.tern as scum.

[Magicziggy]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

[Adenosine]

I think Adenosine has given us an object lesson in how to look town from the word go.
You have probably followed the game and already reached some conclusions by observing.
I can't really find flaw in what you've posted.

From which mafia dimension do you hail?

Basic training at Freethought-Forum then tempered in the fires of TR before a brief stint here and at RatSkep. Then uni took over and I cut back to one game of Mafia. One game, four months old, only just started day four.

[irretating]

I think Adenosine has given us an object lesson in how to look town from the word go.
You have probably followed the game and already reached some conclusions by observing.
I can't really find flaw in what you've posted.

From which mafia dimension do you hail?

FF mafia, and also TR. As scum he tends to flail on day 1 and then pulls together as the game progresses, becoming a chameleon by the endgame.

[irretating]

so gib, who are your town and scum picks so far?

clunny is town, he's trying to use the town tool from whatever celtic mafia he plays there

char's claim is fine, mz looks ok, buying irre is town

zig looks scummy, amok is a question mark

shizzle i thought was town until he just showed up the fucked off

who else is there, aza - dunno, you - dunno

athene - ?

You think MZ looks ok, I'm not so sure.

him leaving feck, btern and dp off concerns me more than the people he did list.

dunno, as scum I think he'd make the effort to list everyone, not just say 'who else is there'

[Uselesstwit]

i think it was odd when people said he was town for publicising that there was a traitor - even i read the OP

so i had that in mind on the reread (which i'll prolly get back to at some point) and yet his game seemed to match up pretty well with that one here recently, the one where ob was scum. Not a strong read either way tho

see that's the thing, I got a good clean look at his town game last time. He seemed random most days but when you went back and looked, he'd start a line of reasoning and see where it led then suddendly shift to someone else, Mz then would watch for reactions both to the switch and to the pressure. I'm just not seeing that this game.

[irretating]

Re: Contra.

Gonzo's last game. Scum team, DP (Don), Aza, Contra. I subbed in for DP.
It was contra's first scum game. He was a little at sea I think

Oh yeah he had that weird clash thing going with ob and gib. I decided on meta that he must be town

[Uselesstwit]

so gib, who are your town and scum picks so far?

clunny is town, he's trying to use the town tool from whatever celtic mafia he plays there

char's claim is fine, mz looks ok, buying irre is town

zig looks scummy, amok is a question mark

shizzle i thought was town until he just showed up the fucked off

who else is there, aza - dunno, you - dunno

athene - ?

You think MZ looks ok, I'm not so sure.

him leaving feck, btern and dp off concerns me more than the people he did list.

dunno, as scum I think he'd make the effort to list everyone, not just say 'who else is there'

yes unless he's going for relaxed. still he usually pays attention to feck, and with b.tern's behavior yesterday and dp volunteering for the lynch i'd expect some mention of them.

[irretating]

I think Adenosine has given us an object lesson in how to look town from the word go.
You have probably followed the game and already reached some conclusions by observing.
I can't really find flaw in what you've posted.

From which mafia dimension do you hail?

Basic training at Freethought-Forum then tempered in the fires of TR before a brief stint here and at RatSkep. Then uni took over and I cut back to one game of Mafia. One game, four months old, only just started day four.

Geez you make it sound like it's brutal over there