Ratz Drama Mafia game thread

[oblivion]

jesus christ. And I got shit for my vig/recruit enabler in my last game design.

I guess we'll have a better idea of whether Irre was a scum or vig kill once we have another night to evaluate.

[higgs2]

o god not a ratskep game

[Mantisdreamz]

o god not a ratskep game

You took me out with you, in that ratskep game we played

[Mantisdreamz]

If this anything like a ratskep game, I expect two scum teams, three independant recruiters with day-kill abilities, two vigs with lynch immunity on odd-numbered days, five SKs, three dons, four docs (two of whom are secretly poisoners) and a handful of Seers, millers, and lovers. Oh, and one poor vanilla town player.

But I suppose the single could have been a scum kill.

Unlikely, in my mind, though.

I don't know Zig. I can see how and why Irre would be a choice for night kill. She is a good town player.

Are you trying to undermine the kill, because you fos'd and voted her..?

[Feck]

morning all not read it all yet but @ Gonzo 'Jerome ...I'm not going to say much because scum will know how I play .....' that was my reading of what he said go back and check if you like.

[Zigmen]

If this anything like a ratskep game, I expect two scum teams, three independant recruiters with day-kill abilities, two vigs with lynch immunity on odd-numbered days, five SKs, three dons, four docs (two of whom are secretly poisoners) and a handful of Seers, millers, and lovers. Oh, and one poor vanilla town player.

But I suppose the single could have been a scum kill.

Unlikely, in my mind, though.

I don't know Zig. I can see how and why Irre would be a choice for night kill. She is a good town player.

Are you trying to undermine the kill, because you fos'd and voted her..?

Not remotely. She looked scummy to me yesterday, and if she was still alive, I'd vote her again today.

But, Irregardless of what i think . . . Irre garnered some votes and some suspicion, yesterday. To me, Irre would have made a good choice for an NK by a pro-town player.

Would Scum have killed somebody who looked so suspicious? Maybe. But freakin' doubtful.

[Feck]

with two BWs on town players who didn't vote ? excluding the votes on Ani as well ..

and I still don't know if M voted for me or not

[Magicziggy]

M didn't vote. I did a post count at the end of the day yesterday.

[Magicziggy]

The entire forum appeared to have rounded on Irre last night. Between the flaming and the scathing asides she could take no more and flounced off in a strop. Irre was Rob and was vanilla ratz.

Looking at this seems like she was voted out, but she wasn't. She did come second though.

[Magicziggy]

Thoughts on why Irre was the NK?

based on her early day 1 posts I had her down as a possible special. That was my main reason for voting Callan when I did.

It could be something else, I guess. I'll have a look at her posts tonight. Maybe something will click.

This is going ding-a-ling-a-ling to me. Given the general lack of scumminess around, this stands out.

Let me get this straight, you voted Callan, not because you thought she was scum, but because you thought Irre was a special. Explain why you thought she was a special. Because you were wrong weren't you? And if you did think she was a special, then you have a motive.

[Mantisdreamz]

If this anything like a ratskep game, I expect two scum teams, three independant recruiters with day-kill abilities, two vigs with lynch immunity on odd-numbered days, five SKs, three dons, four docs (two of whom are secretly poisoners) and a handful of Seers, millers, and lovers. Oh, and one poor vanilla town player.

But I suppose the single could have been a scum kill.

Unlikely, in my mind, though.

I don't know Zig. I can see how and why Irre would be a choice for night kill. She is a good town player.

Are you trying to undermine the kill, because you fos'd and voted her..?

Not remotely. She looked scummy to me yesterday, and if she was still alive, I'd vote her again today.

But, Irregardless of what i think . . . Irre garnered some votes and some suspicion, yesterday. To me, Irre would have made a good choice for an NK by a pro-town player.

Would Scum have killed somebody who looked so suspicious? Maybe. But freakin' doubtful.

I guess that's the way you see it. Nothing she said rang a lot of bells for me.


MZ, you quoted Irre's death.... "the whole forum was on her" Strange way to put it, I agree.

Maybe the scum team are the moderators. Not that that says anything.



Still, oblivion has been posting a little less. higgs, haven't seen much of.

I don't feel too wary about Zig's vote on Irre.

DP....

[Magicziggy]

From Aza's Day 1 OP:

Ratz has been invaded by evil ratskeppers looking for a flame war.

So, a) the scum team are not the mods and b) "flame" indicates scum kill.

[Mantisdreamz]

From Aza's Day 1 OP:

Ratz has been invaded by evil ratskeppers looking for a flame war.

So, a) the scum team are not the mods and b) "flame" indicates scum kill.

Ok, makes sense.


So yesterday's votes:

MZ 1 vite (Callan)
Ani 2 votes ( DP, MZ)
Nelli 1 vote (Nelli)
Irre 4 votes ( zigmen, Ani, Adem, Jerome)
Callan 7 votes ( Irre, gib, Higgs, UT, Ob, Feck, Denny, Gonzo)
Denny 2 votes ( Contro, Mantis)


I wonder if there is anything of fact to the general statement that scum will likely be the 3rd to 4th person on a bw...

Adem, UT, Ob


Also, DP did seem to have a some added spunk to his posts yesterday. I wonder if there was something more to that

Still not sure about Denny either

[Azathoth]

If this anything like a ratskep game, I expect two scum teams, three independant recruiters with day-kill abilities, two vigs with lynch immunity on odd-numbered days, five SKs, three dons, four docs (two of whom are secretly poisoners) and a handful of Seers, millers, and lovers. Oh, and one poor vanilla town player.

But I suppose the single could have been a scum kill.

Unlikely, in my mind, though.

I'm hurt that you could compare one of my games to a ratskep notfia treasure hunt

[oblivion]

Thoughts on why Irre was the NK?

based on her early day 1 posts I had her down as a possible special. That was my main reason for voting Callan when I did.

It could be something else, I guess. I'll have a look at her posts tonight. Maybe something will click.

This is going ding-a-ling-a-ling to me. Given the general lack of scumminess around, this stands out.

Let me get this straight, you voted Callan, not because you thought she was scum, but because you thought Irre was a special. Explain why you thought she was a special. Because you were wrong weren't you? And if you did think she was a special, then you have a motive.

I thought Callan was way more scummy-looking than Irre, but I didn't have huge confidence that she was scum.

With Irre, I got the impression she was special early on. She wasn't going after people and really following up with her FoSes. It's a hard thing to describe, but there was a qualitative difference between her play yesterday and her play in day 1 of the McDonalds game. In both games she wasn't aggressively going after other players. In the McDonalds game, her FoSes seemed wifomy and didn't ring quite true. I wasn't coming to the same conclusion reading the posts she called out. In this game, the FoSes seemed solid, but she didn't follow through and really press people. I waffled about it, and came really close to calling her out on it after she FoSed Denny yesterday. But, I backed off because I thought I could be picking up on a special tell.