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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:08 pm

That "Let's give oblivion a break from being mayor" stuff pinged to me bigtime. Zig made a huge fuss at the end of the previous day 1 about how important it was for the seer to view me. and then I was NKed overnight. I don't like the way he tries to direct the seer views when he's scum. And that's what his play so far smacks of.

Then he put a safe vote on DP. Nobody gets called for voting DP on day one due to his status as a statistical sport, but it's still a cheap vote. Then he switched to Charlou after she headed for bed, and did so for a specious reason.

If he's town, he's playing a damn sloppy game. If he's scum, he's trailing a miasma of wifom.

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Rob » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:12 pm

Zigmen wrote:Vote Oblivion
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Most of this seems normal day 1 nonsense except for a post this far down on page two. Reasons?

Pressure voting:

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For the record I don't see it a a scum ping if someone chooses to not mayor vote Oblivion because they want a change of pace.
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:15 pm

ScienceRob wrote:
Zigmen wrote:Vote Oblivion
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Most of this seems normal day 1 nonsense except for a post this far down on page two. Reasons?

Pressure voting:

Vote UT

For the record I don't see it a a scum ping if someone chooses to not mayor vote Oblivion because they want a change of pace.
Reread his post, SR. He characterized it as doing me a favor and giving me a break Why would he want to give me a break if he's town?

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by normal » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:17 pm

oblivion wrote:That "Let's give oblivion a break from being mayor" stuff pinged to me bigtime. Zig made a huge fuss at the end of the previous day 1 about how important it was for the seer to view me. and then I was NKed overnight. I don't like the way he tries to direct the seer views when he's scum. And that's what his play so far smacks of.
This was what I agreed with Ob about. I hadn't thought of the other reasons.

Over to my banter:
The reason I brought up the banter issue is because I'm interested in how it works psychologically. I also find it interesting that it can work against it's purpose if you are the one who draws attention to how it might be a scum thing to do. Of course, when you draw attention to it, it's very easy for scum to point and loudly say "my my, what a scummy thing to do" and hide safely behind the fact that I look silly when I draw negative attention to myself.

I realize the risks of drawing negative attention to oneself, and I did it anyway. I might have drawn the public attention of some scum, and I might not. But it's something to keep at the back of your mind for future considerations on who's scum.
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:19 pm

ah. reread the post and now see he said he wanted a break for himself, not me.

Still leaving my vote on MZ, though. If he flips scum, I'm going to wonder about denny, too. And possibly Charlou.

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Rob » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:21 pm

I just reread it, doesn't look scummy. I think at least one scum vote is on MZ, probably not two. I think Normal is scummy though, with the spontaneous vote changing with the save and glib remark of "liking their logic."
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Zigmen » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:26 pm

oblivion wrote: Zig made a huge fuss at the end of the previous day 1 about how important it was for the seer to view me. and then I was NKed overnight.
You're referring to me or MagicZig?

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:29 pm

Magiczig. sorry for the confusion.

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Animavore » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:31 pm

:ani:

A new game already!?

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Zigmen » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:36 pm

oblivion wrote:Still leaving my vote on MZ, though.
Even after Normal's reaction? Odd.

Also, you aren't trying to avoid becoming mayor, are you? I don't remember you talking so much about the topic in previous games.

Who else looks scummy to you?
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Rob » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:39 pm

Just as a mark Eight hours and 20 minutes to nightfall meaning nightfall is at 4PM PST.

Zigmen, you are accusing others without explaining your vote. :what:
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by oblivion » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:44 pm

Zigmen wrote:
oblivion wrote:Still leaving my vote on MZ, though.
Even after Normal's reaction? Odd.

Also, you aren't trying to avoid becoming mayor, are you? I don't remember you talking so much about the topic in previous games.
Nope. make me mayor if you want. Might keep me alive to day 2. :D Scum worrying about wasting a kill on the mayor on night 1 is the only benefit I see accruing to winding up with the position. People don't trust me, even when I've been viewed, and rightly so.

I put my vote on MZ in part to see if he reacted. And he did. In fact he posted TWICE about my vote. Add the initial vote on DP, and it's as scummy as anything in the thread so far.
Who else looks scummy to you?
Normal does look a little scummy. And ani pinged a bit there with his first post.

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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by Zigmen » Mon Nov 08, 2010 3:48 pm

God, i wish Higgs were here.

Folks, make Obl mayor please.
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by normal » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:22 pm

I see that my psychology post didn't serve to change the suspicion I MYSELF started. Now, I don't worry about being lynched since I am only vanilla town, but I do worry about having myself in the game for several days being slightly suspected of scum when it's just bad play.

I think oblivion is making heaps of sense, and according to my gut feeling MZ is on the scummy side of the spectrum.
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Re: V mafia day 1

Post by mononoke » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:23 pm

oblivion wrote:That "Let's give oblivion a break from being mayor" stuff pinged to me bigtime. Zig made a huge fuss at the end of the previous day 1 about how important it was for the seer to view me. and then I was NKed overnight. I don't like the way he tries to direct the seer views when he's scum. And that's what his play so far smacks of.

Then he put a safe vote on DP. Nobody gets called for voting DP on day one due to his status as a statistical sport, but it's still a cheap vote. Then he switched to Charlou after she headed for bed, and did so for a specious reason.

If he's town, he's playing a damn sloppy game. If he's scum, he's trailing a miasma of wifom.
Hmm....

I not awfully convinced with this argument. I think one of you two is scum though.

But for me Normals seems the most scummiest at the moment.

So

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