Boy Band Mafia

[oblivion]

unvote
From yesterday (in the order they were posted, but there are posts between). Underlining the parts that I'm most interested in.

Happy to Vote oblivion for today. We'll see if she plays like hitler or is a useless scum hunter

vote feral because I want to see how he plays when not scum (assuming its not three for three).

Ani stop flip-flopping or you'll be lynched. Again.

Most pro-town play so far: oblivion and magic

Least: feck and budski

Ah oblivion, I hadn't realised you'd played three times. Pity none of them was as town, otherwise I'd study the game to see the difference in play.

Ah fuck it. I started going through everyone playing, writing down what I think, but I don't think anything. There's not enough to go on.

Feck, Ani and Twinkie are the people I've got my three eyes on. Mostly 'cause they're the only people who've posted.

Hmm interesting. Oblivion and magic have both done some analysis and you overlook it. Are you trying to start a BW without actually starting a BW?

Ani is bothering me a much or more than anyone. I pressed him for a reason for his vote and he said it was gut. Pressed him again, and he paraphrased my own vote reason. Since then, he's kind of going through the show of being aggressive and hard hitting without actually hitting.

Yes. Ani plays more aggressively when he's vanilla town.

I don't trust you, buddy, trust me on that

That hurts!


Obli, I think FP put a vote on Twinkie as well.

I think she was refering to me. That's the way I read it.

Yep. I was telling ziggy that I don't have anyone on my trusted list, rather there are people on day 1 I wouldn't vote to lynch. Vast difference.

I don't change my vote unless I have better information, and I don't think Ed is more suspicious than feral. Revenge voting me ensures I keep my vote on him, which is funny because I only voted him to see how he'd react, and he reacted scummily.

Twinkie says she put a vote on Feral to see how he plays when not scum. Then she posted that two other players were playing the least pro-town game, but left her vote on Feral.

Something doesn't add up. The revenge-vote came later. I've seen Twinkie change her vote fairly easily when town. The stickiness of this vote looks scummy.

vote Twinkie


(yes, Feral, I know you don't like me calling it a revenge vote, but that is what it looked like. In the future if you vote for someone who put the first vote down on you, realize you need to make a hell of a case for that vote or it WILL look like a revenge vote)

[Feral_Punctuation]

Oh, OK, fair enough. I was just getting ready to type an all-caps post as well
Interesting post Oblivion. As I pointed out earlier, I still think she justified her vote for me based on very little evidence. I'll eagerly await her response.

[Feral_Punctuation]

A question, on second thoughts. I realize you may easily think a noob is revenge voting and I realize it's not pro-town, but surely it's not very scummy looking? You'd have to be a noob or a very ballsy double-bluffing scum to do that, wouldn't you? So why would you automatically class a vote against someone who's voted for you as a revenge vote, if other reasons are given?

tl;dr: Why are people so eager to call a vote a revenge vote, and why is it considered scummy and not nooby?

[oblivion]

A question, on second thoughts. I realize you may easily think a noob is revenge voting and I realize it's not pro-town, but surely it's not very scummy looking? You'd have to be a noob or a very ballsy double-bluffing scum to do that, wouldn't you? So why would you automatically class a vote against someone who's voted for you as a revenge vote, if other reasons are given?

It comes down to the psychology of being scum. I'll talk more about it after the game if you like.

tl;dr: Why are people so eager to call a vote a revenge vote, and why is it considered scummy and not nooby?

As I wrote yesterday it's considered n00b, particularly n00b scum, which gets back to the psychology of being scum and the similarities of n00b mentality.

[oblivion]

Oh, OK, fair enough. I was just getting ready to type an all-caps post as well
Interesting post Oblivion. As I pointed out earlier, I still think she justified her vote for me based on very little evidence. I'll eagerly await her response.

Mafia is only partly about evidence, especially on day 1. Often we have a hunch and we look for the evidence to explain the hunch.

How much evidence did I have for my vote on Budskiboo when I put it down? The vote generated more evidence, which was the whole reason for putting down an early vote on day 1.

Mafia is mostly about paranoia and trust.

[Feral_Punctuation]

Thanks for the answers.

[Magicziggy]

My vote on Budski was a pure reaction learning that he came here for mafia and was therefore likely to be acting.
It was rather hastily done because night was looming.
I couldn;t tell at the time if it was a clinching vote.

Ani is fixated with Twinkie. It would make some sense if one of them were scum.

Charlou: hopefully something today
DennyB: more please
Mantis: town I think
Oblivion: has us all fairly certain she is town.
FP: can't read, new but seems to have most of the required nouse to play

So for now, until I return at 10:30am (now 7:15am)
vote Ani

[Animavore]

Ani is fixated with Twinkie.

It would make some sense if one of them were scum.

Yes. It would.

vote Ani

But not that one.

[DennyB]

DennyM, you've been doing quite a bit of lurking today. What are your thoughts?

I have been reading and thinking in between work (yup...sucks but I gotta do it).
I did not want to wind up with many pages to soak up at the last minute.
This is the way I will play this game…
Now I have my 11 hours in and before I go home to deal with (insert my huge list here), I'll sound off.

You all are a tough read!

I had a gut feeling about Twinkie from early on. I also had the same feeling about Ed and he was Town so apparently, I'm not that smart.
OB is experienced enough and smart enough to thwart suspicion, which makes me suspicious.
Mantis also seems suspicious to me.
Others have not drawn my attention at this point
I will check in for the last time in a couple of hours.

[oblivion]

DennyM, you've been doing quite a bit of lurking today. What are your thoughts?

I have been reading and thinking in between work (yup...sucks but I gotta do it).
I did not want to wind up with many pages to soak up at the last minute.
This is the way I will play this game…
Now I have my 11 hours in and before I go home to deal with (insert my huge list here), I'll sound off.

You all are a tough read!

I had a gut feeling about Twinkie from early on. I also had the same feeling about Ed and he was Town so apparently, I'm not that smart.
OB is experienced enough and smart enough to thwart suspicion, which makes me suspicious.
Mantis also seems suspicious to me.
Others have not drawn my attention at this point
I will check in for the last time in a couple of hours.

You have a good list there, but it's a little short.

What contributes to your gut feeling about Twinkie? And why are you suspicious about Mantis. Why are you not suspicious of Ani? And what do you think of Feral P?

[irretating]

I'm on my iPhone with crappy connection so I can't quote. I had to skim quickly so will be back later when I'm on my computer and can read through more carefully.

Oblivion is still alive, and given two people were slaughtered she wasn't even targeted. Massively massively suspicious.

vote oblivion she was going to be a good mayor if town but dangerous scum.

Ani is wrong so often it's not funny. He has no good reason for suspecting me.

Back later folks, count on it.

[oblivion]

massively, massively flail, Twinkie. Who would risk their kill not going through the night the mayor is most likely to be protected, and the seer is mostly likely to view?

seriously, that's one of the dumbest day 2 arguments for lynching a mayor I've ever read.

[irretating]

No flail. I'd like to avoid the lynch but hey, when I'm flipped as town your game is up, oblivion. I can cope with that.

[oblivion]

No flail. I'd like to avoid the lynch but hey, when I'm flipped as town your game is up, oblivion. I can cope with that.

Why did you keep your vote on Feral P midgame yesterday when you thought that Feck and Budski were the least protown players?

[DennyB]

I can’t exactly put my finger on what it is about Twinkie. Just rubs me the wrong way.
As far as Mantis and Ani, It is how they have replied.
Ani seems like town to me.
And good point, Feral is not exempt at this point.
OB, Why are you so concerned about my thoughts? Trying to avert suspicion?
ponderious.

Now, back to work..
Any one have a blow up diagram for the primary compensating sprocket assembly for a 15 y/o FLHR?