The Innsmouth Look game thread.

[Don't Panic]

any thoughts about this game dp?

Plenty, but a lot of them would get me banned.

Aside from those,
Linus' vote on Ob was interesting;
b. Terns lynch them if they talk too much approach is a little odd;
Irre and Ob both seem to have changed playing style this game, unlikely that 2 scum would use the same excuse to cover potential inconsistencies, but possible for that very reason;
Ksen and diva both slightly pingy to me, but not sure why, nothing concrete in what they've posted.

[oblivion]

I don't know what to think any more. Maybe I need a drink and a rethink.

what were you thinking before you stopped knowing what to think?

[oblivion]

any thoughts about this game dp?

Plenty, but a lot of them would get me banned.

Aside from those,
Linus' vote on Ob was interesting;
b. Terns lynch them if they talk too much approach is a little odd;
Irre and Ob both seem to have changed playing style this game, unlikely that 2 scum would use the same excuse to cover potential inconsistencies, but possible for that very reason;
Ksen and diva both slightly pingy to me, but not sure why, nothing concrete in what they've posted.

I'm not calling you, personally, out, but I do feel that there's an odd thing going on here. I'm well within the normal variations in my game, and yet some people are reacting all over the landscape. I't's starting to look a little bit overdone.

I think if you go back and have a look you'll find that I often put down my first vote on day 1 with little to no explanation, and that I turn questions back on the questioner frequently. I know wny I think someone's looking a little scummy. What I'm curious about is what other people will say about that person's play.

[Zigmen]

The Following quotes are taken from two separate posts made by Irre. The order is correct, though some time elapsed between these comments:

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

. . . .


I know zigmen trolley tracks. But it was his questioning that induced the talk of endgame. His most recent post, where he is careful to point out precisely why he is voting linus, just strikes me as shoring up.

Irre, explain exactly how my line of questioning "gets Linus talking about the endgame."

Read his posts and my posts very carefully.

Then, think about the allegation you have made.

Also, my "reputation" as a "Trolley Tracker" is an utter fabrication. Conversely, I also have the "reputation" as wildly tossing around FoSes on all of the players in a game. These two reputations are mutually exclusive, yet I seem to have both. I'm glad you picked the one that is easiest to disprove.

Rhetorical question: Why are you using such inductive logic and trying to back it up with false rumors? Trying to get rid of me?

[oblivion]

Ironclad and Crumple, you need to chime in. Do you have questions about the game of mafia in general? Do you have any thoughts about the players who've come under discussion?

[oblivion]

The Following quotes are taken from two separate posts made by Irre. The order is correct, though some time elapsed between these comments:

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

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I know zigmen trolley tracks. But it was his questioning that induced the talk of endgame. His most recent post, where he is careful to point out precisely why he is voting linus, just strikes me as shoring up.

Irre, explain exactly how my line of questioning "gets Linus talking about the endgame."

Read his posts and my posts very carefully.

Then, think about the allegation you have made.

Also, my "reputation" as a "Trolley Tracker" is an utter fabrication. Conversely, I also have the "reputation" as wildly tossing around FoSes on all of the players in a game. These two reputations are mutually exclusive, yet I seem to have both. I'm glad you picked the one that is easiest to disprove.

Rhetorical question: Why are you using such inductive logic and trying to back it up with false rumors? Trying to get rid of me?

why are you calling out Irre instead of me over the trolley track "utter fabrication"?

[Zigmen]

why are you calling out Irre instead of me over the trolley track "utter fabrication"?

Because you aren't calling me a Trolley Tracker in some loose way to make it look like I goaded Linus into a discussion about the endgame and then somehow "twist" it around to my benefit.

Irre did.

You, otoh, just think I'm a Trolley Tracker. I'm not out to clear my rep. I'm questioning why someone would use that allegation to make some other spurious crap seem logical.

Don't you think Irre's take on the whole me vs Linus thing seems a bit iffy?

[oblivion]

I think it's iffy, but I'm not sure it's scum-iffy.

rereading the thread, I'm pretty concerned about diva.

[oblivion]

^^ also, it will be a good while of not-trolley-tracking before I revise my opinion. I've been the object of your trolley-tracking frequently enough in the past that it's made an impression.

[irretating]

The Following quotes are taken from two separate posts made by Irre. The order is correct, though some time elapsed between these comments:

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

. . . .


I know zigmen trolley tracks. But it was his questioning that induced the talk of endgame. His most recent post, where he is careful to point out precisely why he is voting linus, just strikes me as shoring up.

Irre, explain exactly how my line of questioning "gets Linus talking about the endgame."

Read his posts and my posts very carefully.

Then, think about the allegation you have made.

Also, my "reputation" as a "Trolley Tracker" is an utter fabrication. Conversely, I also have the "reputation" as wildly tossing around FoSes on all of the players in a game. These two reputations are mutually exclusive, yet I seem to have both. I'm glad you picked the one that is easiest to disprove.

Rhetorical question: Why are you using such inductive logic and trying to back it up with false rumors? Trying to get rid of me?

Meh, say what you like. I read the thread this morning when I woke up and my take was that Linus was not being scummy in having a reason for his mayor choice and a seer suggestion. My take was that your line of questioning took the conversation to endgame discussion. And I agree with Linus that early lynches are nigh impossible to predict, so cannot and would not be factored in. Thus, I find your case for your vote on Linus to be very flimsy. Your later post, taking pains to point out the precise reason for your vote, strikes me as shoring up.

I'm the only one with a vote on you, so what are you worried about particularly?

[Zigmen]

The Following quotes are taken from two separate posts made by Irre. The order is correct, though some time elapsed between these comments:

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

. . . .


I know zigmen trolley tracks. But it was his questioning that induced the talk of endgame. His most recent post, where he is careful to point out precisely why he is voting linus, just strikes me as shoring up.

Irre, explain exactly how my line of questioning "gets Linus talking about the endgame."

Read his posts and my posts very carefully.

Then, think about the allegation you have made.

Also, my "reputation" as a "Trolley Tracker" is an utter fabrication. Conversely, I also have the "reputation" as wildly tossing around FoSes on all of the players in a game. These two reputations are mutually exclusive, yet I seem to have both. I'm glad you picked the one that is easiest to disprove.

Rhetorical question: Why are you using such inductive logic and trying to back it up with false rumors? Trying to get rid of me?

Meh, say what you like. I read the thread this morning when I woke up and my take was that Linus was not being scummy in having a reason for his mayor choice and a seer suggestion. My take was that your line of questioning took the conversation to endgame discussion. And I agree with Linus that early lynches are nigh impossible to predict, so cannot and would not be factored in. Thus, I find your case for your vote on Linus to be very flimsy. Your later post, taking pains to point out the precise reason for your vote, strikes me as shoring up.

I'm the only one with a vote on you, so what are you worried about particularly?

Fair enough. What you see as "shoring up" was me making sure people knew why I voted for Linus, and why I thought he looked suspicious. As you read the thread, you'll see that my vote got me caught up in that "Linus Mayor Vote is Sus" thing. Since that wasn't the case, I pointed it out.

What struck me about your posts were that you made it seem like I was luring Linus into a discussion about the endgame and icing that cake with "Zig's a Trolley Tracker."

That's bad form, Irre.

While this may be your normal Town game, none of this really makes me suspicious of you.

But, you know what does?

You seem to be making excuses for Linus. He has NKs on the brain, and I called him on it. You seemed to paint his posts as "of course he couldn't know how the lynches will turn out."

It's not enough for me to FoS you, but you're on my radar now, and I'll be watching to see if there are any more links between you and Linus.

[irretating]

Zigmen, you seem to be taking this personally. You lose cred when you use that as the reason to flip the FoS back on me. Just sayin'

I know I trolley track. It's a useful thing for me (and others to know). Why you are getting knotted up is beyond me.

[Mantisdreamz]

Zig, it seems like you're getting fosey on irre just because she fosed you. I agreed with her post, and like UT said - the only part I didn't agree with was her take on you. It was simply a theory though. She said

zigmen's line of questioning to Linus gets Linus talking about NK versus odds of early lynch and who will be around at endgame, then tries to twist it and drops a vote on Linus, then later shores up his vote - perhaps he is aware that the interest on Linus is dropping off and he wants to appear consistent. Major FoS on this.

She did say "perhaps"... and frankly, you can be difficult to read sometimes.

I would say for me, diva and Feck need closer looking at. Maybe Charlou as well.

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[Uselesstwit]

i was thinking that zigmen wasn't looking that bad, but that last post of his smelled a bit. zigmen waiting to fos someone? that's not what i'm used to seeing. he's looking very circumspect from what I expect of him.

[Mantisdreamz]

I'm wondering if Feck has staged his vote DP vote.

going to ##vote Feck##