Hitman: Blood Money Mafia - A Dance With The Devil

[Contrapposto]

I have to read what you are talking about first before going along with lynching someone who is claiming to be the last of 47's targets.

its a big chance to be taking because for all we know scum might win the game once the final target is killed / lynched.

[Contrapposto]

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[r.c]

Why are we dropping off Linus. He's scum. Has to be.
He gave his list yesterday with me off it because he was still plying that fake seer scam.
But we haven't had a word about it from him. Looked good on paper but is/was BAD BAD BAD for town.
I'd be happy to lynch ob as well. It's doing my head in that she could pull a stunt like this.

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we are all bottling out on Linus again. Why?

Why does Linus 'have' to be scum? It could be r.c and zigmen.

MZ you won't get me voting ob in this game. BTW I just did a read back of the confusion post charlou's lynch. You were in the thick of it. Yet you think ob might be scum. FoS on you, because DP noted that feck didn't vote on day 1, and then lo and behold feck was taken out during the night.

Has anyone noticed crumbs left by UT? I'm going to go look now.

If zigmen and I were scum, wouldn't it be a bad ploy for him to save me. Scum know who town are, so I still don't completely believe his claim. But as I said earlier, I would rather go after a guest.

[oblivion]

anyone have a vote count?

[irretating]

anyone have a vote count?

Yes

[0] amok votes for
[0] animavore votes for linus
[0] azathoth votes for
[0] charlou votes for
[1] contraposta votes for
[0] divagreen votes for
[0] magicziggy votes for linus
[0] feck votes for
[0] gib votes for zig
[0] irretating votes for zig
[0] ksen votes for linus
[6] linus votes for contra
[0] mattshizzle votes for linus
[0] uselesstwit votes for
[0] oblivion votes for zig
[0] r.c votes for linus
[3.5] zigmen votes for linus

[amok]

I looked for crumbs this morning. if they are there I missed them.

Whew! Quite the read, and I didn't even read every single page. But I read most of it (which can be embarrassing, when you read your own miscues and stupid ideas again and again - on the back and forth sections, I had to read, I mean).

Quote from UT toward the end of Day 2:

speaking of aza, where the hell is he? Also don't forget that he left his vote on dp even after linus explained the seer cover thing he was trying. It's been a very low key performance from aza throughout.

The trouble is that Aza admits to being in disguise, but as Contra pointed out, what the hell? A mild-mannered reporter? As he cleverly put it, what's he going to do, interview someone to death? Plus, at least one other guest is lying.

Didn't see a single thing that would make me think Linus was Special hunting. Lots and lots of posts that actually made sense to me, urging people to make make lists (either on the thread or in our heads) to narrow down the most likely to least likely Town and Scum. That seems like Scum hunting, to me. The seer plan? I can see how it could work for Town if three or four people do it every day. It doesn't help Scum to FIND a seer, but if one of the claimers is killed and revealed as a seer, it helps Town. An awkward but not Scummy ploy, I think.

I'm thinking: UT viewed Aza and saw a disguise. Whether it's what he says it is, we can't know. But Contra says he blocked him, so if Contra is telling the truth, Aza can't be Agent 47. Probably Scum, though, along with another guest. Doesn't help with a decision for me, unfortunately. I'd rather lynch Agent 47 than low-level Scum.

Gonzo said this is a Vanilla game, and would be going with fewer rather than more Specials. Feck was a confirmed Town vig. UT was a confirmed Town seer. Contra is an early Town blocker (claim). Zigmen is a late Town Seer (claim). How many Seers would Town get, honestly, without it becoming an unwinnable game for Scum?

##vote Zigmen##

[irretating]

Why are we dropping off Linus. He's scum. Has to be.
He gave his list yesterday with me off it because he was still plying that fake seer scam.
But we haven't had a word about it from him. Looked good on paper but is/was BAD BAD BAD for town.
I'd be happy to lynch ob as well. It's doing my head in that she could pull a stunt like this.

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we are all bottling out on Linus again. Why?

Why does Linus 'have' to be scum? It could be r.c and zigmen.

MZ you won't get me voting ob in this game. BTW I just did a read back of the confusion post charlou's lynch. You were in the thick of it. Yet you think ob might be scum. FoS on you, because DP noted that feck didn't vote on day 1, and then lo and behold feck was taken out during the night.

Has anyone noticed crumbs left by UT? I'm going to go look now.

If zigmen and I were scum, wouldn't it be a bad ploy for him to save me. Scum know who town are, so I still don't completely believe his claim. But as I said earlier, I would rather go after a guest.

Zigmen wasn't necessarily saving you, as trying to get you cleared. And if/when he flips scum we'll look much more closely at you.

[oblivion]

that makes 4.5 to 6.

[Zigmen]

Ummm. I just home from work and find you guys about to swing the BW onto me, along with Gib final voting.

First, There is no contention that I am a VIP. VIPs can view. Town had 2 VIPS, one for disguises or whatever and one for Alignment. I'm the alignment viewer, called "Seer" in my role PM.

Second, I've explained twice now why I viewed RC, because he was likely to be alive at endgame. Yeah, i'm sure you could have all done better, blah blah blah, but I can't go back and change it now.

Third, I am Scum's #1 target tonight, and lynching me just saves them a kill.

Fourth, you can clearly see on my Roster from day 2 that I listed Gib as Town, Not even a breadcrumb, folks, but an indisputable reveal.

So, let's use our brains and work through this:

If I happen to live through the night, which i assume I can if the bodyguards are not eunuchs, then I will have another view for us tomorrow.

If you kill me now, you'll see I popped exactly as I claimed, and I believe it's game over because I'm the last target Agent 47 needs.

So, kill me and it's game over. Let me live and cast your votes for who you want viewed tonight.

I personally lean toward Raven at this point.

Your call.

[irretating]

Honestly, if it's game over if you flip town, I'm not too sad about that.

[irretating]

Zig, I think you're faking seer. So, agreeing to view raven (which is a massively dumb idea) doesn't count for anything.

[amok]

Zigman wrote:

I personally lean toward Raven at this point.

Gonzo confirmed Oblivion's version of the Great Oblivion-Diva PM Scandal of Blood Money Mafia 2011. I know she's good, but is she that good?

[amok]

Honestly, if it's game over if you flip town, I'm not too sad about that.

Amen to that.

[Zigmen]

Zig, I think you're faking seer. So, agreeing to view raven (which is a massively dumb idea) doesn't count for anything.

So, I'm a VIP with no counterclaim. All VIPS can view something.

And you think that the Scum team got 2 out of 3 VIPS?

Cuz that's what you're saying.

[oblivion]

if you don't get lynched then view someone who outed as guest for fuck's sake. that was the only redeeming feature of the r.c view.