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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:31 pm

dp? Do you have a night action?
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The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Don't Panic » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:33 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:dp? Do you have a night action?
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:40 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:what would people think of lynching b.tern today? it's 100% percent guaranteed to get rid of one of the night kills and buy town some time. I'm just having a huge amount of trouble with both the i.c. kill and believing she's town compatible. The ability to recruit puts her out of normal sk roles, it really sounds like a third party which means non town aligned. It's just that killing i.c. really looks like she tried to readjust the town/scum balance last night. She was suspicious of r.c. and ksen yesterday, but decides to go with someone that most I think had put down to town.
Do you think d.p is scum?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:47 pm

Athene wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:what would people think of lynching b.tern today? it's 100% percent guaranteed to get rid of one of the night kills and buy town some time. I'm just having a huge amount of trouble with both the i.c. kill and believing she's town compatible. The ability to recruit puts her out of normal sk roles, it really sounds like a third party which means non town aligned. It's just that killing i.c. really looks like she tried to readjust the town/scum balance last night. She was suspicious of r.c. and ksen yesterday, but decides to go with someone that most I think had put down to town.
Do you think d.p is scum?
I think he is the most likely atm, but there is a possibility that ksen fake role claimed and dp didn't do anything last night and it was ksen who was blocked. Without b.tern's extra kill we'll have a tomorrow for sure. With it, we're leaving towns fate in the hands of an indie that may or may not be town compatible.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:54 pm

why you're here athene, you never answered my question of why you viewed i.c.. You had dp and char as your top suspects yesterday, why the sudden switch in view targets?
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:04 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:why you're here athene, you never answered my question of why you viewed i.c.. You had dp and char as your top suspects yesterday, why the sudden switch in view targets?
I did view char.

At the time I placed my views I thought we had a vig and I'd asked the vig to take d.p out, I wasn't going to view somebody who I thought would be killed.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by ksen » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:08 pm

Athene wrote:At the time I placed my views I thought we had a vig and I'd asked the vig to take d.p out, I wasn't going to view somebody who I thought would be killed.
b.t. why didn't you follow athene's advice?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:10 pm

yes, the vig who turned out to be the sk who happens to have recruited you who happens to kill the exact same people you viewed so we can't confirm your views. can you see why i'm a bit suspicious?
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:18 pm

this is what i'm thinking b.tern might actually be.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mentor

notice that it's antitown and considered a splinter group.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:24 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:yes, the vig who turned out to be the sk who happens to have recruited you who happens to kill the exact same people you viewed so we can't confirm your views. can you see why i'm a bit suspicious?
I wasn't recruited. My win condition is the same and my seer ability isn't stopped. What possible benefit would there be for me to out b.tern if I had been recruited and was part of her posse?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:28 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:this is what i'm thinking b.tern might actually be.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Mentor

notice that it's antitown and considered a splinter group.
That does sound about right.

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:40 pm

I've ran through a few scenarios and even if we take out b.tern (and me), tonight, if you get it wrong tomorrow then scum will win. Who would you lynch tomorrow?

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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:43 pm

Athene wrote:
Uselesstwit wrote:yes, the vig who turned out to be the sk who happens to have recruited you who happens to kill the exact same people you viewed so we can't confirm your views. can you see why i'm a bit suspicious?
I wasn't recruited. My win condition is the same and my seer ability isn't stopped. What possible benefit would there be for me to out b.tern if I had been recruited and was part of her posse?
I can think of many reasons. One is that you just had to get thru today, then tomorrow you "find" a scum and by the time town finds out it's a mislynch it's to late and your little side team have achieved parity. But that's just paranoia and speculation, what isn't paranoia is that 1 night kill is always better for town than 2 night kills. and there is one absolutely certain way to get rid of one of them. The other way, lynching dp is looking really good. His responses look really weak and he jumped at my idea far to readily for my liking. but still 100% certain to stop a night kill versus mostly certain to stop a night kill? I kinda like the 100% certain way better. also if i'm right an you are a splinter group killing you leaves 4 town to 1 scum instead of 4 town to 2 indies, once again favoring this course of action.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Uselesstwit » Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:49 pm

Athene wrote:I've ran through a few scenarios and even if we take out b.tern (and me), tonight, if you get it wrong tomorrow then scum will win. Who would you lynch tomorrow?
almost certainly dp, but keep in mind we have no roleblocker anymore and we still have a doc. with only one scum remaining mantis will have 2 nights minimum to work even with a mislynch. whereas if we mislynch today she only has one night and town won't have a tomorrow in all likelihood. I'm just not seeing a reason not to kill b.tern. And like I said I keep coming back to the killing of I.c., it just feels like after killing char she felt the need to kill a townie to balance things. that screams last survivor win condition, not town compatible.
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Re: The Innsmouth Look Day 4

Post by Athene » Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:00 pm

Uselesstwit wrote:
Athene wrote:I've ran through a few scenarios and even if we take out b.tern (and me), tonight, if you get it wrong tomorrow then scum will win. Who would you lynch tomorrow?
almost certainly dp, but keep in mind we have no roleblocker anymore and we still have a doc. with only one scum remaining mantis will have 2 nights minimum to work even with a mislynch. whereas if we mislynch today she only has one night and town won't have a tomorrow in all likelihood. I'm just not seeing a reason not to kill b.tern. And like I said I keep coming back to the killing of I.c., it just feels like after killing char she felt the need to kill a townie to balance things. that screams last survivor win condition, not town compatible.
You seem to be assuming she had prior knowledge of char's alignment in order to decide that she needed to kill a townie next in order to balance things. She wouldn't have given that these kills took place over the double night.

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