MLP Game Thread

[ksen]

and ksen is not inspiring confidence that he won't sink it for town.

This is true. I tend to blow it if I get down to one of three people left in the game.

Guys, give me your best cases against who you think is scum while we are all still alive.

[oblivion]

and unless you know of an indie, they'd be at vote parity right now. Everyone else has outed, how would you fell doing the same?

Doing the same what? Outing?

I'm Applejack . . . VT.

Hey guys . . . what's your win condition?

had to check. when all scum are eliminated. I'm pretty sure that's in the PG thread.

[Uselesstwit]

I'm leaning mz atm, but it's not by a huge margin. His play has been erratic, he was the hardest to get onto the b.tern bw. He bought mono's one post yesterday way to easily, and in general has seemed more intent on throwing mud than trying to narrow the field down through considering what was going on.

BUT....he was the guy who broke the tie between you and irre day 2, to get us our first scum lynch, which i heavily used to eliminate people that led to lynching b.tern, our second scum lynch.

Ob has looked very town this game, but a couple of posts have bugged me, and last night kills smack of a person engineering endgame.

You I think are fairly clear, you weren't logged in for so long that you would have picked a night kill blind and I don't see you doing that as scum.

[Uselesstwit]

and unless you know of an indie, they'd be at vote parity right now. Everyone else has outed, how would you fell doing the same?

Doing the same what? Outing?

I'm Applejack . . . VT.

Hey guys . . . what's your win condition?

had to check. when all scum are eliminated. I'm pretty sure that's in the PG thread.

same, and yeah aza posted it somewhere.

[oblivion]

and ksen is not inspiring confidence that he won't sink it for town.

This is true. I tend to blow it if I get down to one of three people left in the game.

Guys, give me your best cases against who you think is scum while we are all still alive.

For me it comes down to MZ. I have waffled on him occasionally, but mostly thought he was town. Coming out of the gate yesterday for a UT lynch really took me aback. I thought his reasons for preferring a mono lynch were weak. I felt like I was arguing with Jerome or something. When I woke up this morning, I posted my thoughts about him.

With UT, really the only question mark I have is whatever it was about Feck's block notice that made him think it was a scum block. If his block-ee survives tonight, then we should know what that was on day 5. If he bussed b.tern, the logic escapes me. We probably would have lynched mono if he hadn't outed.

You're a remote possibility due to not being around all weekend. AFAIK you were not online at all since Friday until after nightfall today. You could be faking the cluelessness about it already being nightfall, I guess. There is not a lot to evaluate regarding your votes. you were on MZ on both day 1 and 2 iirc. However, Irre and b.tern were both on you on day 2. I guess it could have been a bus. You were in the lead for lynch for quite a while.

MZ's OMG no way that was a bus vote was Irre on day 2
UT's was b.tern on day 3
We don't have that kind of whooo townie! vote record for you. Which may be a good indicator you are town, actually.

[oblivion]

I'm leaning mz atm, but it's not by a huge margin. His play has been erratic, he was the hardest to get onto the b.tern bw. He bought mono's one post yesterday way to easily, and in general has seemed more intent on throwing mud than trying to narrow the field down through considering what was going on.

BUT....he was the guy who broke the tie between you and irre day 2, to get us our first scum lynch, which i heavily used to eliminate people that led to lynching b.tern, our second scum lynch.

Ob has looked very town this game, but a couple of posts have bugged me, and last night kills smack of a person engineering endgame.

You I think are fairly clear, you weren't logged in for so long that you would have picked a night kill blind and I don't see you doing that as scum.

regarding engineering endgame maybe it's simpler than that, assuming that you are the town blocker. You announced you were blocking ani. scum could have killed you, but it would still leave a cleared Ani unless he was the vig/sk and the other kill went missing. Killing the player who would have been most cleared the next day if he survived makes a certain sort of sense. It also created wifom. If you are not the town blocker, then the kill still made sense, I think.

[oblivion]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

[ksen]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

Why would that point away from MZ?

[oblivion]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

Why would that point away from MZ?

Maybe it doesn't. I was thinking about the behaviors that the two motivations would engender. If the motivation for the kill was to cast doubts on UT, then scum would make the case on UT early, I think. If the motivation was to prevent a cleared player, maybe not. But, it could be that both motives applied. Or maybe my scenario is crap.

[ksen]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

Why would that point away from MZ?

Maybe it doesn't. I was thinking about the behaviors that the two motivations would engender. If the motivation for the kill was to cast doubts on UT, then scum would make the case on UT early, I think. If the motivation was to prevent a cleared player, maybe not. But, it could be that both motives applied. Or maybe my scenario is crap.

I was toying with the idea that UT blocked and killed ani in order to move suspicion away from himself and to keep the full block message from coming out.

Probably way too paranoid though.

[Uselesstwit]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

and even further away from ksen, since he didn't read who my block was going to be.

[oblivion]

ksen is a very long shot IMO. If we lose to him, I'm going to be all over his weekend absences henceforth.

[oblivion]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

Why would that point away from MZ?

Maybe it doesn't. I was thinking about the behaviors that the two motivations would engender. If the motivation for the kill was to cast doubts on UT, then scum would make the case on UT early, I think. If the motivation was to prevent a cleared player, maybe not. But, it could be that both motives applied. Or maybe my scenario is crap.

I was toying with the idea that UT blocked and killed ani in order to move suspicion away from himself and to keep the full block message from coming out.

Probably way too paranoid though.

if the blocked player turns up dead tomorrow something to think about.

[Uselesstwit]

if that was scum's reasoning for the kill, I think it points away from MZ a bit.

Why would that point away from MZ?

Maybe it doesn't. I was thinking about the behaviors that the two motivations would engender. If the motivation for the kill was to cast doubts on UT, then scum would make the case on UT early, I think. If the motivation was to prevent a cleared player, maybe not. But, it could be that both motives applied. Or maybe my scenario is crap.

I was toying with the idea that UT blocked and killed ani in order to move suspicion away from himself and to keep the full block message from coming out.

Probably way too paranoid though.

probably, since it means i outed at a shizzle of 1, to save the vig/sk at the cost of the scum that was immune to night kills. as i pointed out yesterday, that would have been putting the game into mono's hands. I can't imagine a scum team protecting a threat to itself like that.

[Uselesstwit]

ksen, who do you think it makes the most sense for me to block tonight?