Old West Mafia game thread

[Gonzo]

##Vote r.c.##

For claiming that mass outs rarely work, which is the exact opposite of the truth in every game I've ever seen it used.

Why haven't you claimed if you are asking everyone else to?

[Zigmen]

Oh, and FoS Gonzo for railing on Feck's "just-kidding" claim. Looks odd.

[Zigmen]

##Vote r.c.##

For claiming that mass outs rarely work, which is the exact opposite of the truth in every game I've ever seen it used.

Why haven't you claimed if you are asking everyone else to?

Seriously?

We're supposed to be discussing Whether to mass-claim or not, and Whether we do it today or tomorrow.

Not randomly half of us claim and force the others to claim as well.

Sheesh.

##unvote##

##Vote Gonzo##

For the Wall of Lucy~

[Feck]

I am going to take Feck's claim as a joke and give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the repercussions of a fake claim for the town.

The repercussions are you lot lynch me It's still a LOT better than you lot Mass out !!!

No - these are the repercussions of a fake seer claim:

Also, not really buying feck's claim and am wondering if it's a ruse to get the real seer to out and dump the blame on zigmen for the lie.

Me neither. By phrasing a false claim as if it were just a joke will also help spotlight who is not the Seer when other players wonder if the claim is legitimate or not. It's worthy of a vote but I want to see Feck explain himself first.

Gonzo explain ? ..I'd have to be indie or a selfish town to out as a Seer on day one . It gives the real seer no reason to spotlight themselves ?

How ,if I'm not the seer, would the real seer want to out them selves after my post FFS .How did me saying what i did give sum anymore info ?

[Gonzo]

##Vote r.c.##

For claiming that mass outs rarely work, which is the exact opposite of the truth in every game I've ever seen it used.

Why haven't you claimed if you are asking everyone else to?

Seriously?

We're supposed to be discussing Whether to mass-claim or not, and Whether we do it today or tomorrow.

Not randomly half of us claim and force the others to claim as well.

Sheesh.

##unvote##

##Vote Gonzo##

For the Wall of Lucy~

This is why I despise asking everyone to claim. I was trying to prove a point to you. I am asking how your logic works that everyone should out when it is so absurd to ask a single player to claim for no reason. I think my philosophy about this game is different than yours, but I have never not argued against mass outing. Unlike you, I don't think that it works. I think it is an anti-town idea that usually breaks the game and throws off the balance.

Unless you are trying to sabotage the GM or something...?

[Uselesstwit]

I am going to take Feck's claim as a joke and give him the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the repercussions of a fake claim for the town.

The repercussions are you lot lynch me It's still a LOT better than you lot Mass out !!!

No - these are the repercussions of a fake seer claim:

Also, not really buying feck's claim and am wondering if it's a ruse to get the real seer to out and dump the blame on zigmen for the lie.

Me neither. By phrasing a false claim as if it were just a joke will also help spotlight who is not the Seer when other players wonder if the claim is legitimate or not. It's worthy of a vote but I want to see Feck explain himself first.

Gonzo explain ? ..I'd have to be indie or a selfish town to out as a Seer on day one . It gives the real seer no reason to spotlight themselves ?

How ,if I'm not the seer, would the real seer want to out them selves after my post FFS .How did me saying what i did give sum anymore info ?

because only non seers would be wondering if it was a false claim or not, you effectively reduced the pool of innocents the seer has to hide in. And I wish I had realized that before I had reacted to it.

[Gonzo]

Gonzo For Sheriff, anyone?

No?

Nothing?

Damn.

I would also like to see Irre viewed by the seer. vote irre

[Magicziggy]

Well as we have a new GM I think deciding on what, how many and what type of Scum and specials are in the game is a little presumptuous .

To be honest ..I think It's a little scummy .. And Do not start with the Mass claim Bullshit on day one ..Look Push for the mass claim when I'm scum or even an indie but NOT now .. It works if there are Dumb scum and town get their claims in first IF this is a standard game for 12 like you propose a mass out would kill the game in 3 days and all but the most inexperienced scum team would win .

Oh but go on since you think a mass out is a wonderful plan I'm the Seer !

++++++ vote zigmen +++++++++

I've stumbled into a parallel universe where Feck claims seer on day 1.

[Magicziggy]

MagicZiggy

Yes. Hello.

[Magicziggy]

Mass claim? I don't think so. Maybe tomorrow.

[Magicziggy]

I think a day of scum hunting is preferable to a mass claim.

[JEROME DA GNOME]

i ghave beebn avt the solaoon

[ksen]

@@vote gib@@

I think a mass claim would improve our chances of winning because even discounting the power of the specials on day 1 a 33% chance to hit scum is better than aa 25% chance, given a 3 scum setup. I don't like the idea of losing our specials but I think it is a good thing to wean us off overrelying on specials.

gib, what do you think?

[JEROME DA GNOME]

And, if the game is this small and that heavy with specials, this is one of the rare instances that a day1 mass claim might be an advantage.

##vote Zigman##

[ksen]

@@vote irre@@

The mass claim is a bad idea zig, with a likely maximum of three specials that would leave us with 9 people to sort thru and most probably 4 or fewer days to do it in. Giving scum a day 1 list of specials in a game that's going to be this quick and dirty doesn't seem right.

And how is that worse than having 12 people to sort through in 4 or fewer days?