The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

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The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Mr P » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:26 pm

Got into a major discussion about Darwinism on Facebook and found this excellent page while doing some digging: http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/ ... nazism.htm

Result; one pseudo-creationist arse was kicked :biggrin:

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:30 pm

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Post by Rum » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:36 pm

I'm puzzled. In my experience it is often the right wingers, the creationists and those who hold the 'strongest' (and often therefore most hypocritical) faith who are the racists. I must be missing something. :thinks:

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Rum wrote:I'm puzzled. In my experience it is often the right wingers, the creationists and those who hold the 'strongest' (and often therefore most hypocritical) faith who are the racists. I must be missing something. :thinks:
Darwin spoke of 'races' in one of his books. Therefore he is a racist.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:41 pm

And! If he was a gay cyborg orca from Uranus it wouldn't change the fact of evolution.
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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Mr P » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:43 pm

The discussion was in response to a video by a chap named Michael Tsarion who espouses the theory that the white race was genetically engineered in Atlantis by aliens! Of course we all jolly well had to spread our new found superiority to the lesser races around the world.

My oppo didn't accept that this was thinly veiled white supremacist, eugenic bullshit and trotted out the old "Darwin was a racist" routine in defence.

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Post by Rum » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:50 pm

Actually it is the case that political correctness makes most of us shy away from the whole area of 'racial difference'. There are of course differences - you just have to look FFS!

But woe betide anyone who tried to start exploring those differences academically!

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Mr P » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:53 pm

Rum wrote:Actually it is the case that political correctness makes most of us shy away from the whole area of 'racial difference'. There are of course differences - you just have to look FFS!

But woe betide anyone who tried to start exploring those differences academically!
As a species we're pretty much in-bred (genetically speaking) the vast majority of differences are down to geography and culture.

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:05 pm

Mr P wrote:
Rum wrote:Actually it is the case that political correctness makes most of us shy away from the whole area of 'racial difference'. There are of course differences - you just have to look FFS!

But woe betide anyone who tried to start exploring those differences academically!
As a species we're pretty much in-bred (genetically speaking) the vast majority of differences are down to geography and culture.
I don't see that staying the same after another century and a half.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Mr P » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:08 pm

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Rum wrote:Actually it is the case that political correctness makes most of us shy away from the whole area of 'racial difference'. There are of course differences - you just have to look FFS!

But woe betide anyone who tried to start exploring those differences academically!
As a species we're pretty much in-bred (genetically speaking) the vast majority of differences are down to geography and culture.
I don't see that staying the same after another century and a half.
I agree, we'll all be programmed by implants from the illuminati and sponsored by Mc Donalds.

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by klr » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:04 pm

Rum wrote:I'm puzzled. In my experience it is often the right wingers, the creationists and those who hold the 'strongest' (and often therefore most hypocritical) faith who are the racists. I must be missing something. :thinks:
You and me both, and many more besides. In a word association test "God fearing" = "racist", at least for me.
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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Pappa » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:11 pm

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Rum wrote:I'm puzzled. In my experience it is often the right wingers, the creationists and those who hold the 'strongest' (and often therefore most hypocritical) faith who are the racists. I must be missing something. :thinks:
Darwin spoke of 'races' in one of his books. Therefore he is a racist.
Is that the bit where he said, genetically there are greater differences within races than between races?

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

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Pappa wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Rum wrote:I'm puzzled. In my experience it is often the right wingers, the creationists and those who hold the 'strongest' (and often therefore most hypocritical) faith who are the racists. I must be missing something. :thinks:
Darwin spoke of 'races' in one of his books. Therefore he is a racist.
Is that the bit where he said, genetically there are greater differences within races than between races?

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Tero » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:23 pm

Useless waste of time.

Hitler and Stalin will be next.

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Re: The Mis-portrayal of Darwin as a Racist.

Post by Mr P » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:58 pm

Tero wrote:Useless waste of time.

Hitler and Stalin will be next.
Oh fear not, Hitler was mentioned pretty early on :roll:

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