How to stun a fundy.
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How to stun a fundy.
We went to the Creation Experience Museum of the Ozarks last weekend. (Just last week? ) There one of the muppets engaged PZed in a debate rather similar in scale to Lesotho attacking California.
However, at one point he said something that I had to come back and talk to him about later. He had a coprolite in a little box and said words to the effect that there's no way "soft material" like that could fossilize, so it must have been put there by the creator. After PZ was done with him I slid over and took him I could describe a perfectly reasonable scenario for the fossilization of poop. When I visited Yellowstone a few decades back I happened to witness a mud flow, hot mud from a geyser thingy that ran across a road near where we were staying. The mud had swamped a picnic area and the Rangers were assessing the situation. One of them pointed to the rim of a trash barrel, sticking about six inches up from the mud, and said, "A million years from now, somebody will be studying the trash in there for their Ph.D."
I remembered this when I talked to the fundy and pointed out that a turd encapsulated in hot mud would be baked, killed bacteria and stopping decay. The mud would protect it from external forces and if the fossilization process proceeded we'd have a sample just like the one in his box. He nodded and smiled.
A few minutes later I heard him give his original spiel about the coprolite to a new batch of people, not changed one wit.
However, at one point he said something that I had to come back and talk to him about later. He had a coprolite in a little box and said words to the effect that there's no way "soft material" like that could fossilize, so it must have been put there by the creator. After PZ was done with him I slid over and took him I could describe a perfectly reasonable scenario for the fossilization of poop. When I visited Yellowstone a few decades back I happened to witness a mud flow, hot mud from a geyser thingy that ran across a road near where we were staying. The mud had swamped a picnic area and the Rangers were assessing the situation. One of them pointed to the rim of a trash barrel, sticking about six inches up from the mud, and said, "A million years from now, somebody will be studying the trash in there for their Ph.D."
I remembered this when I talked to the fundy and pointed out that a turd encapsulated in hot mud would be baked, killed bacteria and stopping decay. The mud would protect it from external forces and if the fossilization process proceeded we'd have a sample just like the one in his box. He nodded and smiled.
A few minutes later I heard him give his original spiel about the coprolite to a new batch of people, not changed one wit.
Re: How to stun a fundy.
Sharply jab a thumb into their throat just below the Adams apple , it may not stun them but it will shut them up for a while .
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FBM approves of this post.Feck wrote:Sharply jab a thumb into their throat just below the Adams apple , it may not stun them but it will shut them up for a while .
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I got 85 minutes of PZed talking to the staff there. They were staggering when he left. (There were several other people pitching in, every time a staffer said something stupid he was so informed.)Feck wrote:Sharply jab a thumb into their throat just below the Adams apple , it may not stun them but it will shut them up for a while .
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Thumb with an Iguanodon thumbspikeFeck wrote:Sharply jab a thumb into their throat just below the Adams apple , it may not stun them but it will shut them up for a while .
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I'm slightly disappointed that you expected reason Zilla.
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Taser? Or maybe just a piece of exposed live-wire?Gawdzilla wrote:How to stun a fundy.
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What? no tasering?
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It was cool to see them with a room full of baby-eaters, and three times that many waiting outside.
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Re: How to stun a fundy.
I hope you followed PZ's advice on how to behave while you were there:Gawdzilla wrote:We went to the Creation Experience Museum of the Ozarks last weekend. (Just last week? ) There one of the muppets engaged PZed in a debate rather similar in scale to Lesotho attacking California.
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/index.php?page=3
Be polite and nondisruptive. This is their property and you are a visitor.
Remember: the Christians running this show, and the Christian attendees, are the delusional victims here. Feel some pity for them.
Do not, however, forget that this is an institution dedicated to promoting lies and ignorance. Do not pull a Michael Ruse and start admiring what they've accomplished.
Do not loudly insult the gift shop, if they have one. They hate that — that was the one thing that made the goons at our last #creozerg snap.
Do not have gay sex on the exhibits.
Document. Take notes and photographs. Your goal is to come away from this with a better understanding of what the promulgators of ignorance are teaching, and to spread the word about their folly afterwards.
Converse. One of the cool things about these trips is that you're in a large group of critical thinkers, many of whom may have expertise on the subjects being mangled by the exhibits. Ask questions. Learn stuff.
Just to be on the safe side, you probably shouldn't have heterosexual sex on the exhibits, either.
Be in the right frame of mind: you are not a gang of hooligans planning to vandalize the place, you are skeptical anthropologists there to observe the peculiar and pathological folkways of a backwards, intellectually impoverished people.
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I sent PZed the footage I took, and shared it with Rob Lehr from Skepticon as well. I imagine they'll have youtubes of it available before long.
This guy was across the street.
This guy was across the street.
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I was on the other side of this guy, with my back to the window. You can see me in some of the shots.
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I'm a bit disappointed. I thought this thread was about how to fund a study. The study I wanted to fund was to be about spoonerisms.
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