rEvolutionist wrote:What?? Of course you fucking do. I filled the feedback forum with acres of print on the same shit you lot are complaining about.
I don't really remember any, except I think there were a few asking for Seth to be banned or something (not sure if that was you or not though). That isn't to say that you didn't start them but just I wasn't aware of them, so I doubt I was a mod at the time.
rEvolutionist wrote:I had multiple conversations with individual mods via PM, which unfortunately I've lost due to my banning.
Again, I can't really comment on that as you never PM'd me so either I was a mod and the others didn't raise your concerns with the other mods, or I wasn't a mod.
rEvolutionist wrote:I don't think I was labelled a troll by any mods to my face, but fallible and stijn were condescending cockheads to me and others (well, Stijn was to others as well, I don't know if fallible was).
Maybe they were, I don't know, but the advantage of the mod system back then compared to now (and it's something that I, as well as Fallible, Stijn, and others always defended) was the exception to the "PM sharing" rule when it comes to mods. So if they were cocks to you through PM then you could start a Feedback thread about it and ask everyone else if they think that's appropriate.
Now of course THWOTH wasn't very happy with that and he threatens to ban anyone who reveals the contents of official mod PMs. If you think you're being mistreated by the mods, what is your only course of action? To report them to themselves. Oh look, they've decided to close the report without action. That's why they're essentially working on shutting down the Feedback forum as well because they don't have enough control over it.
They can tell someone to fuck off over PM and then just ignore them but when someone starts a feedback thread like I did and have 20+ people agreeing that the mods fucked up, then it's much harder to tell them to fuck off and ignore them. Of course, he still somehow manages to do just that with his politician speak where he pretends to answer the question, then locks the thread before anyone can respond.
rEvolutionist wrote:And I and others were trolled like motherfuckers by redwhine and MoS and Regina too I think, for daring to question the status quo. And then there were the usual sycophantic nobodies like Scot Dutchy types who just sniped because it made them feel important sticking up for their heroes the mods.
You're preaching to the original choir here. I (along with Fallible, Stijn, and others)
hated the sycophants in the feedback forum who tried to 'defend' us. It was nice that we had some support but it was blind support which isn't helpful to anyone. And, importantly, they simply derailed the threads and caused massive flamewars.
We tried for ages to come up with a rule to limit their ability to shut down criticisms of the mods but everything we came up with just ultimately hindered some valid expression on the functioning of the forum.
rEvolutionist wrote:Actually, Weaver was a mod then and attacked AndyX terribly and the mods did nothing about it. You probably defended him at the time.
I don't know what situation you're describing and my current limited search capabilities aren't helping, but I don't think I've been a mod at the same time as Weaver (or, at least there wasn't a lot of overlap that I can recall) so I couldn't have had a hand in dealing with any reports on him. As for "defending" him more generally, that would depend entirely on whether what he said violated the rules or not - but arguing that something isn't against the rules isn't the same as arguing for the truth or necessity of the statement.
I've defend a whole lot of shit said on Ratskep in terms of what the rules say but that obviously doesn't mean I support the actual statements themselves. I've even defended Tyrannical's bullshit which was thinly veiled racism on the basis that the issues he brought up were well-within the rules. It goes without saying that I'm not perfect and certainly not always right, but my intentions have always been to argue in the interests of what's best for the forum.
Scott1328 wrote:Weaver and Theropod got warnings. IMHO, both should have gotten temp 24 hr cool down just as Ugaboo did a while back when he had his meltdown ( any bets on whose sock puppet that one is? ), also their off topic flame outs should have been removed.
Well then. I'm happy to admit that I was wrong, good job on the mods there as I know it was probably tough to sanction their friends for comments they likely agreed with. I agree that a 24hr suspension would have made more sense for them there as well though.
Scott1328 wrote:Mr.Samsa wrote:Any takers before the decision is made? Maybe Fallible will be permabanned as a troll like Weaver demanded? Maybe Scott# will be outed as my ingenious sockpuppet? Maybe the underground rebel group will rise up and take over RatSkep before any decision can be made?
No, but If you send me a shirtless photo, I might agree to your girlfriend.
Won't work, they know what she looks like. But since she's not allowed to sign up to the forum at all (THWOTH still can't tell me the reasoning for this given that the charge was that I supposedly used her account against her wishes so she's technically a victim of her account being hacked and she got banned for it, I regularly keep asking but he never explains), maybe the mods think she's dead or something so you could be my new lover, as after her tragic death I could no longer give myself over to another woman as their boobs remind me of her.
What the hell.. Why am I responding to my own sock account? I must be losing it.
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