Dawkins Pedophilia Remarks - Derail from For Reason & Science

[HomerJay]

It seems to me that it is dangerous for any person of any description remotely in the public eye to make any comment whatsoever (good, bad or indifferent) concerning paedophilia, rape, gender issues and the like with any expectation that the remarks will be treated objectively. Anyone with an agenda will immediately rip them to shreds for what they are interpreted as actually *meaning* and often their reputation will be damaged beyond prepare. It is getting beyond a joke.

..and that is before we get started on Islam!

I'd agree there's an unhealthy mix of hysteria but combined with apelust style ideologues who are convinced that discussing the qualitative scale is actually in itself harmful to victims or future victims or the families and everyone.

[Bella Fortuna]

It seems to me that it is dangerous for any person of any description remotely in the public eye to make any comment whatsoever (good, bad or indifferent) concerning paedophilia, rape, gender issues and the like with any expectation that the remarks will be treated objectively. Anyone with an agenda will immediately rip them to shreds for what they are interpreted as actually *meaning* and often their reputation will be damaged beyond prepare. It is getting beyond a joke.

..and that is before we get started on Islam!

I'd agree there's an unhealthy mix of hysteria but combined with apelust style ideologues who are convinced that discussing the qualitative scale is actually in itself harmful to victims or future victims or the families and everyone.

Indeed. By even hinting that not everything is on the same level of horrible, or that people might have had different reactions to their own personal experiences, is seen as an attack and invalidation of others. Hypocritically, they're trying just as hard to define others' perceptions and experiences as they accuse anyone who thinks differently of doing to them.

[JimC]

If it is like a disability and can be detected using brain scans or specially designed tripwire questionnaires then chemical castration will be of great benefit for their victims? Given the high suicide rate amongst victims, decades later in some instances, the priority should be the victim not the culprit even if they appear harmless to some - which I find dubious from Dawkins since he surely must be well aware of the data concerning suicide and self-harming behaviours from victims of abuse?

One of Bron's friends husband committed suicide last year, after an inquiry into abuse by priests brought back old memories.

No sympathy from me to these arseholes, only contempt and anger...

[Seth]

Maybe he's just a closet homosexual and enjoyed the "touching," but he's unwilling to admit it.

Erm..I'm assuming that you haven't been keeping up with lp posts on RD.

Of course not. Why would I?

[JimC]

Maybe he's just a closet homosexual and enjoyed the "touching," but he's unwilling to admit it.

Erm..I'm assuming that you haven't been keeping up with lp posts on RD.

Of course not. Why would I?

Dave's point is that plenty of evidence seems to be coming out in that thread about RD being a serial womaniser, with mistresses galore, which somewhat obviates your point...

[Seth]

Maybe he's just a closet homosexual and enjoyed the "touching," but he's unwilling to admit it.

Erm..I'm assuming that you haven't been keeping up with lp posts on RD.

Of course not. Why would I?

Dave's point is that plenty of evidence seems to be coming out in that thread about RD being a serial womaniser, with mistresses galore, which somewhat obviates your point...

Maybe he's just putting up a false front. My first girlfriend was a bisexual who dated me because I was "safe" and because she needed cover against accusations of lesbianism.

[Hermit]

Maybe he's just putting up a false front. My first girlfriend was a bisexual who dated me because I was "safe" and because she needed cover against accusations of lesbianism.

You were "safe", huh? People putting up a false front usually are.

[JimC]

Maybe he's just a closet homosexual and enjoyed the "touching," but he's unwilling to admit it.

Erm..I'm assuming that you haven't been keeping up with lp posts on RD.

Of course not. Why would I?

Dave's point is that plenty of evidence seems to be coming out in that thread about RD being a serial womaniser, with mistresses galore, which somewhat obviates your point...

Maybe he's just putting up a false front. My first girlfriend was a bisexual who dated me because I was "safe" and because she needed cover against accusations of lesbianism.

One wife is usually enough cover for a covert gay.

Mistresses are usually there for lust and licentiousness...

[cronus]

Cult leader and lot's of opportunity, the working premise. You should know the score by now?

[JimC]

Cult leader and lot's of opportunity, the working premise. You should know the score by now?

And the reflex reaction of a certain type of female personality to males perceived as leaders...

Gotta grab those alpha male sperm...

(please note, no generalisation to females overall...)

[cronus]

Cult leader and lot's of opportunity, the working premise. You should know the score by now?

And the reflex reaction of a certain type of female personality to males perceived as leaders...

Gotta grab those alpha male sperm...

(please note, no generalisation to females overall...)

Who wouldn't put their hand in the cookie jar?

[cronus]

Then Dawkins was always the outsider wanting in, being a white african living in the UK/US which could explain his squeaky 'almost cliff richard' clean public persona he has maintained through the years - subconscious compensation for never being quite on the dime? This could be ideal cover for a darker altogether different persona which reflected the frustrations of being born outside the tribe? It'll be interesting where things go with this 1970s glam science rock star now?

[Audley Strange]

Then Dawkins was always the outsider wanting in, being a white african living in the UK/US which could explain his squeaky 'almost cliff richard' clean public persona he has maintained through the years - subconscious compensation for never being quite on the dime? This could be ideal cover for a darker altogether different persona which reflected the frustrations of being born outside the tribe? It'll be interesting where things go with this 1970s glam science rock star now?

This is amusing, but you don't half talk some shit at times.

[DaveDodo007]

Then Dawkins was always the outsider wanting in, being a white african living in the UK/US which could explain his squeaky 'almost cliff richard' clean public persona he has maintained through the years - subconscious compensation for never being quite on the dime? This could be ideal cover for a darker altogether different persona which reflected the frustrations of being born outside the tribe? It'll be interesting where things go with this 1970s glam science rock star now?

[Evolutionary biologist] All whites were Africans.[/Evolutionary biologist]

[Skepticus]

Mistresses are usually there for lust and licentiousness...

Bless them. Bless them one and all.