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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by colubridae » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:09 pm

Rachelbean, my own view is quite different.

1. Durro posted with good intentions on ratz. Good for him. I thank him warmheartedly for his warning. It potentially saved ratz a lot of harm and he did it knowing that he would likely get twaddle from ratksep renegades. So well done Durro. I would do the same were the attack on us not them. So I agree with you there.
I should have made that clear to durro in my post above.

2. The conversations taking place in the open are a good thing for ratz members. It lets them see the raw personalities involved. So I don’t want them hidden. But rainbow deliberately manipulated durro by posting his rant openly ‘at’ durro. Durro fell for it. Bad for him, good for ratz. Personalities and viewpoints get to be ‘seen’.

3. De-rails are the great strength of rationalia. They are usually as interesting and often more interesting than the original thread. So I would disagree with you there. Long live the de-rail.

4. Yes there are members here who will take every opportunity to abuse mods (justly or unjustly) at ratksep (and other members of ratskep). Good, such posts are the strength of rationalia. Allowing twats to post twattery makes them conspicuous. It’s better to know where the twats are and the level of their twattery.

The rationalia view, “ ‘post what you want’ and it’s content will determine your worth.” is it’s glory.

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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by Red Celt » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:20 pm

Ooo now. I do hope that you're not counting me in the Twat Category(tm). My coffee-deprived mind felt like a wee rant.
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by Pappa » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:27 pm

colubridae, derails in the Serious Discussion or Technical Stuff subforums are split. Everywhere else on Rationalia they're left to meander anywhere they like. This one will be split soon, currently any mods online are not able (such as me phone posting).

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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by rachelbean » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:34 pm

colubridae, agree with you completely on almost everything :hugs: even the derails bit I agree (some of the best threads ever have been nothing but massive derails) but the serious stuff forum specifically has a request for no derails, just so there is one part of the site where people can expect straight-forward discussions. Of course nobody is going to be banned for derails, they'll just be split.
Red Celt wrote:Ooo now. I do hope that you're not counting me in the Twat Category(tm). My coffee-deprived mind felt like a wee rant.
I certainly wasn't, I know that not everyone is aware that there are discussions about ratskep already going on, which is one of the reasons I posted. Please don't take my comments to mean I think everything said/asked was invalid. :flowers:
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Post by Red Celt » Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:59 pm

rachelbean wrote:Please don't take my comments to mean I think everything said/asked was invalid. :flowers:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:04 pm

Red Celt wrote:
rachelbean wrote:Please don't take my comments to mean I think everything said/asked was invalid. :flowers:
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by colubridae » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:25 pm

rachelbean wrote:colubridae, agree with you completely on almost everything :hugs: even the derails bit I agree (some of the best threads ever have been nothing but massive derails) but the serious stuff forum specifically has a request for no derails, just so there is one part of the site where people can expect straight-forward discussions. Of course nobody is going to be banned for derails, they'll just be split.
Red Celt wrote:Ooo now. I do hope that you're not counting me in the Twat Category(tm). My coffee-deprived mind felt like a wee rant.
I certainly wasn't, I know that not everyone is aware that there are discussions about ratskep already going on, which is one of the reasons I posted. Please don't take my comments to mean I think everything said/asked was invalid. :flowers:
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Post by Audley Strange » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:31 pm

Tyrannical wrote:We have rules on derailing topics here, it's required :{D
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Post by Kristie » Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:47 pm

rachelbean wrote:colubridae, I have no problem with the conversations happening in the open, but it's not in the pub, so derails aren't something that should be encouraged. It seems shitty that Durro came here and posted something that was only helpful to us (and that he didn't have to) only to be jumped on for something that has nothing to do with what he posted. But I'm not a mod, if I were I probably would have locked the thread after Durro posted the note because it's obvious there are members here who have little to contribute to this board EXCEPT to shit on ratskep and it's mods.
I just assumed Rainbow brought it up in that thread because he knew Durro would see it and other firms of communication had already been ignored (allegedly).
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by colubridae » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:20 pm

Kristie wrote:
rachelbean wrote:colubridae, I have no problem with the conversations happening in the open, but it's not in the pub, so derails aren't something that should be encouraged. It seems shitty that Durro came here and posted something that was only helpful to us (and that he didn't have to) only to be jumped on for something that has nothing to do with what he posted. But I'm not a mod, if I were I probably would have locked the thread after Durro posted the note because it's obvious there are members here who have little to contribute to this board EXCEPT to shit on ratskep and it's mods.
I just assumed Rainbow brought it up in that thread because he knew Durro would see it and other firms of communication had already been ignored (allegedly).
That's one of the things I was getting at. It lets people see that rainbow's posts are manipulative and that durro's posting can be gullible.

(had to say 'posting' to avoid censure for personal attacks - the point is that the Durro/Rainbow exchange says a lot about their respective characters. Durro comes out way ahead BTW)
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while Derail!

Post by rachelbean » Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:44 pm

I just figured the thread would be split no matter what and was trying to encourage others from seeing rainbow's post and piling on the derail when the discussions are already being had elsewhere.
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while Derail!

Post by Seth » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:20 pm

It's easy to figure out if you understand that the phrase "intractable troll" means nothing more than someone with a firm opinion that's in opposition to the atheist/liberal/socialist/Marxist orthodoxy over at RatSkep. If you dare to challenge that orthodoxy or are critical of atheism, liberalism, socialism, or Marxism (among other protected "isms") then you will eventually be labeled an "intractable troll" for no other reason than the fuckwitted members of that forum aren't smart enough to rationally argue their way out of a wet Kleenex and they are so childish and incapable of controlling themselves that any criticism immediately sends them off into a flurry of faux outrage and petty complaints. Pretty quickly the fuckwits who are Moderators over there get fed up with dealing with the reports, so irrespective of how valid (or really invalid) the reports are, they will carry on secret behind-the-scenes Star Chamber conversations and then label the irritant an "intractable troll" in order to try to rationalize and justify their gross stupidity and intolerance in banning any criticism of their favorite sacred cows.
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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while Derail!

Post by Durro » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:11 pm

Seth, opinions are like assholes - everyone has one but some stink more than others. But thank you for taking yet another opportunity to enter a thread where a Ratskep Mod is involved and posting a vicious, vitriolic rant directed at them. This sort of bitter venting is water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned, but if it is therapeutic on some level for you, by all means continue.

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Other Ratz members should be aware however that, very often, the versions of history presented by certain disgruntled ex-Ratskep members is often distorted, inaccurate and in some case, simply flights of fantasy. I don't wish to be dragged into an inter-forum mud slinging contest, so my final word on the subject is that there are two sides to every story and the side presented by certain Ratz members about their treatment at the hands of Ratskep may not be the full, impartial story.

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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while.

Post by HomerJay » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:39 pm

colubridae wrote:2. The conversations taking place in the open are a good thing for ratz members. It lets them see the raw personalities involved. So I don’t want them hidden. But rainbow deliberately manipulated durro by posting his rant openly ‘at’ durro. Durro fell for it. Bad for him, good for ratz. Personalities and viewpoints get to be ‘seen’.
Durro's a grown-up, he can look after himself, I don't think he fell for anything or allowed himself to be manipulated. I'm sure he can treat this as the internet equivalent of watching a man trying to light his own farts in a gale.

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Re: Please stay away from Ratskep...for a while Derail!

Post by Pensioner » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:56 pm

Durro wrote:Seth, opinions are like assholes - everyone has one but some stink more than others. But thank you for taking yet another opportunity to enter a thread where a Ratskep Mod is involved and posting a vicious, vitriolic rant directed at them. This sort of bitter venting is water off a duck's back as far as I'm concerned, but if it is therapeutic on some level for you, by all means continue.

:coffee:

Other Ratz members should be aware however that, very often, the versions of history presented by certain disgruntled ex-Ratskep members is often distorted, inaccurate and in some case, simply flights of fantasy. I don't wish to be dragged into an inter-forum mud slinging contest, so my final word on the subject is that there are two sides to every story and the side presented by certain Ratz members about their treatment at the hands of Ratskep may not be the full, impartial story.

:eddy:

Thanks for the warning mate, much appreciated. :tup:
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