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I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Calilasseia » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:56 am

... I felt it was time to say something on recent events, having engaged in relevant deliberations. Accordingly, I offer this.


An Open Letter To PZ Myers

I have some questions arising from recent events. PZ, if you're observing this, please take your time to study them, and then provide an answer.

[1] Does not having launched into a spate of venomous abuse against Pappa, as a result of my not being aware of the thread in question, prior to your intervention, make me a "rape apologist"?

[2] Does not abandoning friends I made a good long time ago, just because one of them happens to have made an ill-conceived attempt at humour, make me a "cockroach"?

[3] Does the phrase "I disagree in the strongest terms with what you say, but I defend to the death your right to say it" resonate with you at all?

[4] Given that several here have had personal experience, with respect to the matter of escaping the rule by decree and thought policing so beloved of supernaturalists, does it not strike you as woefully ironic, to be seen as engaging in the same behaviour as your purported enemies in this matter, with respect to your interventions?

I would prefer substantive answers instead of one line dismissals if possible.

Yours sincerely,


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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby rEvolutionist » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:02 am

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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby laklak » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:19 am

Think he'll respond, Cali?
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Ian » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:23 am

I wouldn't count on it. He launched his hate campaign over at Pharyngula, but hasn't come here much except to briefly call us all a nest of cockroaches. Besides, he asked to have his account suspended.
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Jaygray » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:58 am

I'm sure his lap-dogs will pass the message on. I expect he will either be too aloof to answer or he'll give the usual summary dismissal with 'assholes' being used a lot. Got to rally the troops, what?
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Tyrannical » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:05 am

Ian wrote:I wouldn't count on it. He launched his hate campaign over at Pharyngula, but hasn't come here much except to briefly call us all a nest of cockroaches. Besides, he asked to have his account suspended.


Perhaps we may get lucky and he decides to take his medication before posting. I'm curious if he can discuss things he doesn't like or agree with without resorting to acting like a sixth grader.
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Atheist-Lite » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:07 am

Tyrannical wrote:
Ian wrote:I wouldn't count on it. He launched his hate campaign over at Pharyngula, but hasn't come here much except to briefly call us all a nest of cockroaches. Besides, he asked to have his account suspended.


Perhaps we may get lucky and he decides to take his medication before posting. I'm curious if he can discuss things he doesn't like or agree with without resorting to acting like a sixth grader.


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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Audley Strange » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:15 am

Seems to me, like a lot of academics I've met (and I'm sure some of the academics here have met) that never having left school, but skipped from one class to another, many of them have a very skewed idea of reality. Given that and given his obvious lack of self-criticism since his hagiographers and courtiers have inflated his ego to a degree that has allowed him to delude himself into thinking he has some kind of "leader" role in a community that increasingly marginalises him because it has had enough of his and his fawning lickspittles.
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby rasetsu » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:45 am




I say we dust off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby colubridae » Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:03 am

rasetsu wrote:I say we dust off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.


I’m going to postulate — just an idea — that perhaps there is a secret chemical that has been genetically engineered which is on the surface of that paper so that when the Ph.D. candidate receives that roll of paper this chemical is absorbed by the skin, goes into the bloodstream and is conducted directly to the brain. This is a very carefully engineered chemical which goes directly — please don’t laugh; this is science — goes directly to the speech center of the brain and paralyzes the brain in such a way that two sentences from then on, in any given language, are no longer possible to be pronounced by that person. Those two sentences are, “I don’t know” and “I was wrong”.

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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby amused » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:19 am

[5] Given your own disgust with concern trolls, aren't you now disgusted with yourself?
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby JimC » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:22 am

If he won't treat Cali seriously, he wouldn't treat anyone seriously...
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby Atheist-Lite » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:26 am

JimC wrote:If he won't treat Cali seriously, he wouldn't treat anyone seriously...


...except I, for myself, find the questions to be apparently rather weak coming from one of the acknowledged strongest gamesters on the skeptical board. :coffee:
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby rainbow » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:30 am

JimC wrote:If he won't treat Cali seriously, he wouldn't treat anyone seriously...

I find Cali too boring to take seriously. :bored:
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Re: I know you're all tired of this, but ...

Postby rachelbean » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:38 am

Cali is anything but boring :lol:
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