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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:30 pm

This is NOT the place to have that war from. Someone will say some fucked up shit that kinda works here on the site, where we all know that people talk shit to be talkin' shit. Then it will be taken as non-ironic and spread all around. Casual observers will be treated to evidence of misogyny that looks pretty damn convincing.

Also, it's a dirty little net war.

Ask CES where you can find a collection of every photo of any of the Skepchicks looking slutty at parties and a collection of every politically incorrect thing that has been said by the Skepchicks, that part of FtB, and A+. There's a guy who has actually made Youtube videos breaking down threads on the A+ forum. Do we want that kind of shit here where many of us would like to feel comfortable talking about our lives?

That shit last August took a lot of fun out of this forum for a lot of us.

Fuck PZ and fuck giving a fuck about him, A+, and the Skepchicks. Also: Fuck the Slymepit and Greylining. Fuck A Voice for Men. Fuck Girlwriteswhat.

Both sides are infested by the most morally bankrupt, intellectually dishonest, and fucking tiresome drama queens cunts, dicks, assholes, and wankstains I've ever encountered.

They are as if the Professional Wrestling were infested with Tonya Hardings.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Cormac » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:41 pm

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rEvolutionist wrote:Seriously, why not? This place needs a shot in the arm.
Because the last time that happened this place became poisonously divisive from being under unjust scrutiny. And like we need more of an undeservedly shit reputation. Many of us who come here to socialise and make/interact with friends used to be able to proudly recommend to other people that they join this forum, and now we - still! - would be too embarrassed to because of the persistent malignant reputation that resulted from that horrible chapter.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:42 pm

I mostly agree Robert. I can't pretend I think it's normal to carry on like they do about the shit they do.

Here's a youtube video about something you said last night. It includes a rebuttal to that as well as a discussion about the word you used last week when describing eating at that restaurant, and finally at the end I discuss for the last time why those three words do mean what I say they do and not what you want to claim you meant last August. Oh wait, I lied. There is also a brief talk thrown in as a bonus (a bonus! like we're all enjoying this shit!) that covers the time I saw you stand up when everyone was sitting and the implications this has...

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:51 pm

Sean Hayden wrote:Here's a youtube video about something you said last night. It includes a rebuttal to that as well as a discussion about the word you used last week when describing eating at that restaurant, and finally at the end I discuss for the last time why those three words do mean what I say they do and not what you want to claim you meant last August. Oh wait, I lied. There is also a brief talk thrown in as a bonus (a bonus! like we're all enjoying this shit!) that covers the time I saw you stand up when everyone was sitting and the implications this has...
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jun 03, 2013 2:55 pm

Thinking Aloud wrote:
Sean Hayden wrote:Here's a youtube video about something you said last night. It includes a rebuttal to that as well as a discussion about the word you used last week when describing eating at that restaurant, and finally at the end I discuss for the last time why those three words do mean what I say they do and not what you want to claim you meant last August. Oh wait, I lied. There is also a brief talk thrown in as a bonus (a bonus! like we're all enjoying this shit!) that covers the time I saw you stand up when everyone was sitting and the implications this has...
:clap:
Both of your employers will be hearing about this. :{D
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by laklak » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:01 pm

Robert_S wrote: Fuck PZ and fuck giving a fuck about him, A+, and the Skepchicks. Also: Fuck the Slymepit and Greylining. Fuck A Voice for Men. Fuck Girlwriteswhat.

Both sides are infested by the most morally bankrupt, intellectually dishonest, and fucking tiresome drama queens cunts, dicks, assholes, and wankstains I've ever encountered.

They are as if the Professional Wrestling were infested with Tonya Hardings.

:clap: Fuckin' A, dude.

But what do you have against Tanya Harding? I'll bet she'd be great fun on a Tequila-fueled weekend in Tijuana. Might even get her onstage for amateur night at the Bride of the Burro show.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:07 pm

The thing is, if someone is single-mindedly obsessed with this whole tiresome business and feels the need to rant or pick fights about it, the Slymepit already exists. More power to that site if that's their thing, but this place doesn't need to be Slymepit 2: Electric Boogaloo.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:11 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:The thing is, if someone is single-mindedly obsessed with this whole tiresome business and feels the need to rant or pick fights about it, the Slymepit already exists. More power to that site if that's their thing, but this place doesn't need to be Slymepit 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Fuck yeah! Beat Street was 100 times better anyway!
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Cormac » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:33 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:The thing is, if someone is single-mindedly obsessed with this whole tiresome business and feels the need to rant or pick fights about it, the Slymepit already exists. More power to that site if that's their thing, but this place doesn't need to be Slymepit 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Fuck yeah! Beat Street was 100 times better anyway!
And this is why I love Rationalia.

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2. The discernment to know which was the better movie.

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:42 pm

I never actually saw any of that stuff. :levi:
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Robert_S » Mon Jun 03, 2013 5:02 pm

Cormac wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:The thing is, if someone is single-mindedly obsessed with this whole tiresome business and feels the need to rant or pick fights about it, the Slymepit already exists. More power to that site if that's their thing, but this place doesn't need to be Slymepit 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Fuck yeah! Beat Street was 100 times better anyway!
And this is why I love Rationalia.

1. Obscure 80s movie references.
2. The discernment to know which was the better movie.

:) I still remember some of the raps from Beat Street.
I was wandering around on Youtube and memory lane... 80's Hip hop movies... 80's music movies in general... And then I found...



I can't explain why, but I think it fits in this thread.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Cormac » Mon Jun 03, 2013 6:46 pm

Robert_S wrote:
Cormac wrote:
Robert_S wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:The thing is, if someone is single-mindedly obsessed with this whole tiresome business and feels the need to rant or pick fights about it, the Slymepit already exists. More power to that site if that's their thing, but this place doesn't need to be Slymepit 2: Electric Boogaloo.
Fuck yeah! Beat Street was 100 times better anyway!
And this is why I love Rationalia.

1. Obscure 80s movie references.
2. The discernment to know which was the better movie.

:) I still remember some of the raps from Beat Street.
I was wandering around on Youtube and memory lane... 80's Hip hop movies... 80's music movies in general... And then I found...



I can't explain why, but I think it fits in this thread.
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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Brian Peacock » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:01 pm

Cormac wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
rEvolutionist wrote:Seriously, why not? This place needs a shot in the arm.
Because the last time that happened this place became poisonously divisive from being under unjust scrutiny. And like we need more of an undeservedly shit reputation. Many of us who come here to socialise and make/interact with friends used to be able to proudly recommend to other people that they join this forum, and now we - still! - would be too embarrassed to because of the persistent malignant reputation that resulted from that horrible chapter.

No thanks.

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Re: So, PZ is a stone-cold racist.

Post by Audley Strange » Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:03 pm

Robert_S wrote:This is NOT the place to have that war from. Someone will say some fucked up shit that kinda works here on the site, where we all know that people talk shit to be talkin' shit. Then it will be taken as non-ironic and spread all around. Casual observers will be treated to evidence of misogyny that looks pretty damn convincing.

Also, it's a dirty little net war.

Ask CES where you can find a collection of every photo of any of the Skepchicks looking slutty at parties and a collection of every politically incorrect thing that has been said by the Skepchicks, that part of FtB, and A+. There's a guy who has actually made Youtube videos breaking down threads on the A+ forum. Do we want that kind of shit here where many of us would like to feel comfortable talking about our lives?

That shit last August took a lot of fun out of this forum for a lot of us.

Fuck PZ and fuck giving a fuck about him, A+, and the Skepchicks. Also: Fuck the Slymepit and Greylining. Fuck A Voice for Men. Fuck Girlwriteswhat.

Both sides are infested by the most morally bankrupt, intellectually dishonest, and fucking tiresome drama queens cunts, dicks, assholes, and wankstains I've ever encountered.

They are as if the Professional Wrestling were infested with Tonya Hardings.
Yeah, you go girl! :td: (though when he's not yakking about Ophelia Benson, I do like Greylining).

I can't say I disagree with any of that and while I could have perpetuated this, because it's been delicious, I realise this is not the place for it, however if people are going to keep it going, I'm going to comment from time to time.

If anything though it's been an expert lesson on how totalitarianism is not an extremist position.
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