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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Jason » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:19 pm

Scott1328 wrote:
JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
He called his interlocutors raving hypocrites
Oh my.. that cannot be countenanced.

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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:20 pm

Well, that could be called a PA, I suppose, but only because of the adjective "raving"

I still think that "Inflammatory statements" is a dangerous reason for suspension...
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Jason » Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:21 pm

Scott1328 wrote:Rationalia suspends members for personal attacks.
We do? :ask:
Scott1328 wrote:No worse has been done to Forty Two, that what was done here to rEv
Yeah, but everyone here knows rEv is a cunt.

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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Seth » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:11 pm

Scott1328 wrote:
JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
He called his interlocutors raving hypocrites
My suspicion is that this is not a personal attack it is a simple statement of truth, particularly when applied abstractly to a group as opposed to aimed at an individual.
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Post by Hermit » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:15 pm

JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
"Intentional malicious trolling", an expression you will find in the first paragraph of Rationalia's rules, is no less a catch-all than "Inflammatory statements".
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Post by Hermit » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:17 pm

Śiva wrote:Yeah, but everyone here knows rEv is a cunt.
Group think at work. ;)


I am fairly sure you were being intentionally ironical.


You were, weren't you?
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:27 pm

JimC wrote:The only reason for a permaban here would involve excess negativity towards either cheese or bacon...

Or gin...
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:33 pm

Śiva wrote:
Scott1328 wrote:Rationalia suspends members for personal attacks.
We do? :ask:

It is only when you are reported that the rules apply, as most people on here are think skinned and it is water off a ducks back and the report button rarely gets clicked.
Scott1328 wrote:No worse has been done to Forty Two, that what was done here to rEv
Yeah, but everyone here knows rEv is a cunt.

Never understood rEv as he was the one who posted "get your tits out" and "get your kit off" to any fit women who posted their opinion here on a totally unrelated post, it was like something out of a seventies sitcom. Yet I whom would never do that was a misogynistic, sexist shitlord for being an anti-feminist. :thinks: It is almost like you can indulge in the most sexist behaviour imaginable so long as you call yourself a feminist (I might just be seeing the appeal of that man hating cult to men.) I still never agreed with any banning that he had.
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Jason » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:57 pm

Hermit wrote:
Śiva wrote:Yeah, but everyone here knows rEv is a cunt.
Group think at work. ;)


I am fairly sure you were being intentionally ironical.


You were, weren't you?
Yes. ;) - ironic wink..

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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Strontium Dog » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:08 pm

JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
When you have literally identical word strings being deemed inflammatory when one person uses them, but not when another person uses them, you know the rule is essentially just being used as an excuse to sanction certain posters.
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by JimC » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:27 pm

Hermit wrote:
JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
"Intentional malicious trolling", an expression you will find in the first paragraph of Rationalia's rules, is no less a catch-all than "Inflammatory statements".
Perhaps in theory, but here it has been only used once or twice in very extreme cases...
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by Scott1328 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:30 pm

So RatSkep is evil for attempting to follow its FUA, but Ratz is virtuous for largely ignoring its own FUA?

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Post by Jason » Fri Dec 04, 2015 11:35 pm

We're virtuous by virtue of our outstanding members! Virtues.. :teef:

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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:50 am

Strontium Dog wrote:
JimC wrote:"Inflammatory statements" is a pretty good catch-all for saying stuff outside group-think...
When you have literally identical word strings being deemed inflammatory when one person uses them, but not when another person uses them, you know the rule is essentially just being used as an excuse to sanction certain posters.
You have forgotten the golden rule, 'it is OK when they do it.'
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Re: Rationalskepticism,lol part III.

Post by DaveDodo007 » Sat Dec 05, 2015 12:58 am

Scott1328 wrote:So RatSkep is evil for attempting to follow its FUA, but Ratz is virtuous for largely ignoring its own FUA?
Ratz leans in favour of free speech in that it takes something exceptional to get you banned even when you are breaking the rules. Rapskep will go out of its way to ban wrongthink even if the rules haven't been broken (hence people who disagree with the groupthink are trolls.) Even you the ratskep apologist can't continually deny it now.
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