Announcement about RDF

[Stephen]

I feel a little lost at the moment. I don't really know what to think or feel. I'm angry and sad, but I think that's a given really. I feel incredibly gutted for the mods and the all of the work and dedication they put into the forum.

I don't want to believe that Richard okayed Josh's actions, I don't want to lose all respect for the man that wrote a truly life changing book (not TGD btw). But there is a side of me that thinks back to previous encounters with Dawkins on the forum, and I can't help feel a certain uneasiness about this whole situation.

What are you referring to, "previous encounters with Dawkins"? What happened?

I find it hard to imagine how any of us could lose "all respect" for RD over this, no matter the degree of his involvement (within reason).

[ronmcd]

Shocked and disappointed. What a way to destroy your own site - piss of the very people who made it great. Sad.

I still hold out some hope RD knows nothing about it ..... but unlikely I suppose.

[hackenslash]

Greetings all, I was Amethyst Deceiver over at RDF. Hadn't been there long but I was quite enjoying it. This was rather a shock.

Oh well, here I am.

Good to see you again... and sign of MacGuffin?

Who's going to create multiple pointless threads now?

LionIRC is here, I've been told. We're still waiting for Memories, Dunsapy and Swiatlo!

Well, three Dunsapys have already been awarded here, all for Josh.

[the pigeon]

So I woke up this morning, and it's all still true!

Nice to see so many old faces here.



Not that it really matters, since I wasn't exactly a forum fixture, but I dropped the "small grey" and am just the pigeon now.

Like many, I joined the facebook group.

[Cunt]

I don't want to believe that Richard okayed Josh's actions, I don't want to lose all respect for the man...

I personally feel it would be disrespectful to RD to assume this is anything other than his actions. At least until there is reason to think otherwise. He is in charge of the forum, he is responsible. Josh is just an employee carrying out orders.

He is still someone I wouldn't hire to tie my shoes, though.

[Stephen]

Greetings all, I was Amethyst Deceiver over at RDF. Hadn't been there long but I was quite enjoying it. This was rather a shock.

Oh well, here I am.

Good to see you again... and sign of MacGuffin?

Who's going to create multiple pointless threads now?

Poor guy. He seems like a good kid, but he made more than a few references to what I imagined as his rather hermetic existence. I think he just needs to get out of the house and do some drugs, get drunk or something. He's smart for his age, definitely . . .

[ozewiezeloose]

Greetings all, I was Amethyst Deceiver over at RDF. Hadn't been there long but I was quite enjoying it. This was rather a shock.

Oh well, here I am.

Good to see you again... and sign of MacGuffin?

Who's going to create multiple pointless threads now?

LionIRC is here, I've been told. We're still waiting for Memories, Dunsapy and Swiatlo!

Well, three Dunsapys have already been awarded here, all for Josh.

Come on, Hack! Dunsapys don't even begin to do him justice!

[Darkchilde]

Greetings all, I was Amethyst Deceiver over at RDF. Hadn't been there long but I was quite enjoying it. This was rather a shock.

Oh well, here I am.

Good to see you again... and sign of MacGuffin?

Who's going to create multiple pointless threads now?

LionIRC is here, I've been told. We're still waiting for Memories, Dunsapy and Swiatlo!

And where is Robert Byers? [Oh, it was so sweet to ban him. ]

[MedGen]

I feel a little lost at the moment. I don't really know what to think or feel. I'm angry and sad, but I think that's a given really. I feel incredibly gutted for the mods and the all of the work and dedication they put into the forum.

I don't want to believe that Richard okayed Josh's actions, I don't want to lose all respect for the man that wrote a truly life changing book (not TGD btw). But there is a side of me that thinks back to previous encounters with Dawkins on the forum, and I can't help feel a certain uneasiness about this whole situation.

This felt strange! You said what I've been trying to say all this time. Exact, word-to-word! And I guess we are talking about the same book here as well!

What are you referring to, "previous encounters with Dawkins"? What happened?

I find it hard to imagine how any of us could lose "all respect" for RD over this, no matter the degree of his involvement (within reason).

The one that comes instantly to mind was one of RD's references to the fact that anyone who remains a creationist is simply thick and they shouldn't be at university. At the time I worked alongside a muslim lady, one of the most intelligent people I know (this is in a science department at a northern university btw) and stated that his comment was a gross generalization. He was vehement that a creationist would never be able to make it onto a science course as they are all to thick to make it, but clearly he hasn't a fucking clue about how the real world as this is contrary to my own experiences and those of others, including the admission of many muslim students into medical school (not the ones that kick up a fuss but ones that just don't understand evolution because of their religious indoctrination). He [RD] just seemed more than a little detached from the real world.

[Kristie]

Greetings all, I was Amethyst Deceiver over at RDF. Hadn't been there long but I was quite enjoying it. This was rather a shock.

Oh well, here I am.

Good to see you again... and sign of MacGuffin?

Who's going to create multiple pointless threads now?

There are many pointless threads created here daily! And they're all welcome!

[laklak]

Sorry Van/Loon, blame the eyesight and the tiny avatar.

Where should we start OFs Part 14 (Interrupted)?

[Simon_Gardner]

I just picked up a PM from Nora on RD.net, saying that she is on Facebook. She seemed unaware of this site, so I sent her the address. Hopefully she'll be along in a bit. Pen is here, as is durro.

Nora knows about it fine and we have been discussing it via email since last night [GMT]. She’s upset.

[SpeedOfSound]

Personally, I'm convinced that Dawkins knows everything about the forum closing and the plans for the new discussion system, but nothing about the way he two tossers went about things. I'm sure there's a reason Josh and Andrew feel the need to hide their tracks, cut communication links, and even tell staff to behave and not to contact the Prof.

So unprofessional. Not people person of the year anyway. Josh sucks more than a Turkish hooker on speed. He's going to wish I didn't have his personal email address.

I wish you luck, but my own experience is that he just ignores anything that doesn't suit him.

I've got quite a collection of ignored emails that I've sent to him ranging from "So how come it's easy to fix search and you aren't doing it?" to "Hellooooooooooooooo?"

I knew something weird was up with that search thing. Getting more server power these days is something your average pizza flipper can afford. They seemed strangely quiet about any suggestions that were made to fix the damned server and database. I think they had a plan.

What exactly could have irritated them about our posts?

[the pigeon]

What exactly could have irritated them about our posts?

That's what I don't understand: what's so annoying about page after page of rational discussion?

[Scot Dutchy]

Ah, ....Lak VanYoungman happens to be Grey Beard Loon. Have been for 20 years.

Hi van

Nice seeing you here. Are there many other old farts around. Lak and starr are here but no sign of Fraser, Nora, DD, Pen and a few others.
We will have start a thread again.