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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by Thinking Aloud » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:15 pm

I've just dragged what I have of the "Death of the Forum" thread out of my browser's cache (pain in the arse database cache)... and merged it into one file (with the Announcement at the top).

It'll be here briefly - if it's worth keeping, I'd invite a Ratz Admin to take a copy and put it on the Ratz server.

Sorry for any repeats, missing pages, lack of formatting, etc...

http://thinking-aloud.co.uk/temp/rdf.html

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by hackenslash » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:15 pm

natselrox wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Still no sign of Cali, who hasn't logged on since 7:44 yesterday am. I hoping he doesn't do anything precipitous, as it would be better if we got the forum archived first, since I know he doesn't have all his content saved offline, only the big recent posts. I'm about to go save all the boilerplate posts now, just in case something goes wrong with the autoarchives (at least three peole I know of are attempting an autoarchive).
On the contrary, hack, I think Cali saves all of his posts offline! Still, I'll try to save as much as I can!
No, I know he hasn't always done so, and I know he has not got all of them saved, based on private conversations we had where I was looking for particular material for the boilerplate and being defeated by the search.
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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by hackenslash » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:16 pm

ozewiezeloose wrote:Done, Hack!

One a side note:
Josh wrote:We had intended to leave the forum fully-funtioning for 30 days, but due to the inappropriate posts by some users and moderators, we have decided to leave the forum in a read-only state.
What on earth is he talking about?

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A thread was started in the tech forum concerning the announcement, and people were obviously unhappy and vented a bit. TBH, I think it was just an excuse.
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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by natselrox » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:17 pm

hackenslash wrote:
natselrox wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Still no sign of Cali, who hasn't logged on since 7:44 yesterday am. I hoping he doesn't do anything precipitous, as it would be better if we got the forum archived first, since I know he doesn't have all his content saved offline, only the big recent posts. I'm about to go save all the boilerplate posts now, just in case something goes wrong with the autoarchives (at least three peole I know of are attempting an autoarchive).
On the contrary, hack, I think Cali saves all of his posts offline! Still, I'll try to save as much as I can!
No, I know he hasn't always done so, and I know he has not got all of them saved, based on private conversations we had where I was looking for particular material for the boilerplate and being defeated by the search.
Did you foresee this when you thought of that book?

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by hackenslash » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:18 pm

Nope. I thought it would strengthen the forum and bring in new members.
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Post by Flora » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:19 pm

MCJ wrote:I just logged on there, picked up a pm and sent one back.

It is my feeling that this was bound to happen after the purge of autumn 2008. I also believe that RD knows exactly what is going on and that actually, he wants rid of the forum altogether, that it is too big a monkey on his back. Let's be honest, he's not a man of the people (I'm with Mrs CJ on this one) and some of us are just not the right kind of person; intellectual snobbery always existed on the site from some parties, which is why Dawks came into being.

It's just a shame nobody there had the balls to come clean about it nor the manners to deal with people in a civilised way.
I think it comes down to 2 main things:

* not really knowing how to fix the forum problems (something to do with the backend) although I've been told by others that it could have been done
* not being willing to spend any more money on it to patch it up (which is always a useless solution anyway)

I don't think RD wanted to get rid of the forum at all but he'd take advice (as would the Foundation) from the tech people. If they said it can't be fixed and is draining the resources then they are going to approve the new system that's presented to them.

That's my hunch anyway.

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by Babel » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:19 pm

Did gallstones make it here? :begging:

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by SnowLeopard » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:20 pm

ozewiezeloose wrote:Done, Hack!

One a side note:
Josh wrote:We had intended to leave the forum fully-funtioning for 30 days, but due to the inappropriate posts by some users and moderators, we have decided to leave the forum in a read-only state.
What on earth is he talking about?

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Gallstones was posting a picture of someone giving the middle finger, other mod's supported his views. Rest of us vented our displeasure at the situation. Nothing that wasn't to be expected after being told we were being fucked.
In the begining there was nothing. Which then exploded.

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by ozewiezeloose » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:21 pm

hackenslash wrote:A thread was started in the tech forum concerning the announcement, and people were obviously unhappy and vented a bit. TBH, I think it was just an excuse.
And a very lame one at that. :pissed:

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by ozewiezeloose » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:22 pm

SnowLeopard wrote:Gallstones was posting a picture of someone giving the middle finger, other mod's supported his views. Rest of us vented our displeasure at the situation. Nothing that wasn't to be expected after being told we were being fucked.
I'd send Josh the exact same picture if I could still post PM's. Crap.

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by Mazille » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:22 pm

Babel wrote:Did gallstones make it here? :begging:
Not yet, I think, but all the ex-staff are in touch, so no-one will be lost.
SnowLeopard wrote:
ozewiezeloose wrote:Done, Hack!

One a side note:
Josh wrote:We had intended to leave the forum fully-funtioning for 30 days, but due to the inappropriate posts by some users and moderators, we have decided to leave the forum in a read-only state.
What on earth is he talking about?

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Gallstones was posting a picture of someone giving the middle finger, other mod's supported his views. Rest of us vented our displeasure at the situation. Nothing that wasn't to be expected after being told we were being fucked.
Well, that and CJ and me telling the fuckers that we hope that this will hurt their chances with future employers, as well as some rather outspoken criticism by pretty much everyone.

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by natselrox » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:22 pm

hackenslash wrote:Nope. I thought it would strengthen the forum and bring in new members.
Are you still game with it?

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by Faithfree » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:22 pm

fuck you & fuck your god wrote:Is there any way to restore deleted posts? Some kind of internal archive, or journaling function?
I just tried a quick search using Google focusing on users who apparently have had their accounts deleted. By clicking on the "Cached" link I was able to view some of their deleted posts. I don't know how exhaustive the caching is.

Eg: http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:v- ... clnk&gl=au
Although it may look like a forum, this site is actually a crowd-sourced science project modelling the slow but inexorable heat death of the universe.

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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by hackenslash » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:23 pm

natselrox wrote:
hackenslash wrote:Nope. I thought it would strengthen the forum and bring in new members.
Are you still game with it?
I don't know. I'm going to give it some thought and, of course, much will depend on how successful we are in archiving the content.
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Re: Announcement about RDF

Post by cowiz » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:24 pm

Please hold the drama until 5.30pm Eastern as I have some fucking work to do.

Thank you for your cooperation.
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